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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux PM list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Doug Smythies <dsmythies@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [regression] cross core scheduling frequency drop bisected to 0c313cb20732
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 08:38:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1460378295.25336.5.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1460343894.3682.11.camel@gmail.com>

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On Mon, 2016-04-11 at 05:04 +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Sun, 2016-04-10 at 16:24 -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > 
> > On Sun, 2016-04-10 at 17:39 +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Should the default idle state not then be governor
> > > dependent?  When I
> > > set gov=performance, I'm expecting box to go just as fast as it
> > > can
> > > go
> > > without melting.  Does polling risk CPU -> lava conversion?
> > Current CPUs can only have some cores run at full speed
> > (turbo mode) if other cores are idling and/or running at
> > lower speeds.
> The real world is very unlikely to miss the prettier numbers I'm
> grieving over one tiny bit.  Knowing that doesn't make giving them up
> any easier though.. byebye cycles (sniff) ;-)

I suspect your pipe benchmark could be very relevant to
network performance numbers, too.

I would like to go into polling a little bit more aggressively
in a future kernel, and I think we can get away with it if we
teach the polling loop to exit after we have spent enough time
there that the menu governor will pick HLT after a few timed
out poll loops.

That way while we run a workload that actually benefits from
polling, we will get polling, but once we run a workload that
actually sleeps longer than the HLT threshold, we will quickly
fall back to HLT.

With 10Gbps network traffic, it could make a real difference
whether or not the CPU can wake up immediately, or takes a
microsecond to wake up...

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-11 12:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1460092854.4051.1.camel@gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <20160408064510.GK3448@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
     [not found]   ` <1460098254.5582.17.camel@gmail.com>
2016-04-08 20:59     ` [regression] cross core scheduling frequency drop bisected to 0c313cb20732 Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-04-08 22:19       ` Doug Smythies
2016-04-09  6:44         ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-09  7:17         ` Doug Smythies
2016-04-09  7:27           ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-09 11:08         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-09  6:40       ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-09 12:33         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-04-09 15:10           ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-09 16:39             ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-10  3:44               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-04-10  7:16                 ` Doug Smythies
2016-04-10  9:35                 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-10 14:54                   ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-09 11:07       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-09 12:31         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-04-10 15:39           ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-10 20:24             ` Rik van Riel
2016-04-11  3:04               ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-11 12:38                 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2016-04-11 13:21                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-04-11 13:38                     ` Rik van Riel

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