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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Martin Mokrejs <mmokrejs@fold.natur.cuni.cz>
Cc: Linux PM list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sarah Sharp <sarah.a.sharp@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: suspended DRAM bridge
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2013 23:41:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1461283.gKidiaRK7T@vostro.rjw.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5159F775.30805@fold.natur.cuni.cz>

On Monday, April 01, 2013 11:09:09 PM Martin Mokrejs wrote:
> Hi Rafael,
> 
> Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Monday, April 01, 2013 06:50:17 PM Martin Mokrejs wrote:
> >> Hi Rafael,
> >>   I have a simple question. Why seems my DRAM controller suspended?
> > 
> > I suppose that runtime PM is disabled for that device and therefore
> > runtime_status is meaningless.
> 
> But I really mean this pair of values:
> 
> /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:00.0/power/runtime_status:suspended
> 
> /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:00.0/power/control:auto
> 
> 
> > 
> > And really, that attribute is for *debugging* things by developers who know
> > what they are looking for and not for random poking.
> 
> Well, if me or you are to figure out why laptop-mode-tools make my life
> even more miserable with hotplug issues the requests to provide
> 
> grep . /sys/bus/pci/devices/*/power/runtime_status
> grep . /sys/bus/pci/devices/*/power/control
> 
> provide crap. How can I infer something if I cannot trust the values?

The phrase "trust the values" above doesn't make sense.  You need to know what
the values are supposed to *mean* in the first place, which you evidently
don't.

And what they mean is:

/sys/devices/.../power/runtime_status - the current value of the device's
runtime_status attribute at the moment.  [Notice that you need to know the code
in question to know the meaning of that attribute.]  That field always has
certain value, even though it may not make sense *to* *you*.

/sys/devices/.../power/control - "on" means that user space doesn't allow the
device to be runtime-suspended, while "auto" meanse that it *does* allow that
to happen.  Nothing more or less than that.

In particular, "auto" doesn't need to mean that the device will be
runtime-suspended at all and the value of runtime_status requires
interpretation.

That's how it goes.

Now, if you want me (or anyone else on this list) to help you, why don't you
test 3.9-rc5 with the patch at https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/2368081/
applied and send *one* message describing *briefly* what *does* *not* *work*
for you, without attaching any logs, lspci outputs and so on just yet?

Then, we can try to address the problems you have in 3.9-rc5 and go back to the
(still supported) 'stable' kernels from there.

Does that sound like a workable plan?

Rafael


-- 
I speak only for myself.
Rafael J. Wysocki, Intel Open Source Technology Center.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-01 21:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <5159BAC9.80700@fold.natur.cuni.cz>
2013-04-01 20:56 ` suspended DRAM bridge Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-01 21:09   ` Martin Mokrejs
2013-04-01 21:41     ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2013-04-01 22:03       ` Martin Mokrejs
2013-04-02 14:30       ` Martin Mokrejs

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