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From: Bart Van Assche <Bart.VanAssche@wdc.com>
To: "bmarzins@redhat.com" <bmarzins@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] fs: use freeze_fs on suspend/hibernate
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 20:53:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1512075231.2774.17.camel@wdc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171130194249.GK729@wotan.suse.de>

On Thu, 2017-11-30 at 20:42 +0100, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 05:01:13PM +0000, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> > The md resync
> > thread must be stopped before a system is frozen. Today the md driver uses
> > the kthread freezing mechanism for that purpose. Do you have a plan for
> > handling the more complicated scenarios, e.g. a filesystem that exists on top
> > of an md device where the md device uses one or more files as backing store
> > and with the loop driver between the md device and the files?
> 
> Nope not yet. It seems you have given this some thought though so you're 
> help here is greatly appreciated. In fact the way we should see the long
> term 'kill kthread freezing' effort should be a collaborative one. I've
> never touched md, so folks more familiar with md should give this some
> thought.
> 
> Can for instance md register_pm_notifier() and register_syscore_ops()
> and do handy work to pause some work to replace kthread freezing?
> Note that I believe a pm notifier is needed in case syscore_suspend()
> is not called, say on a suspend fail.

Sorry but I don't think that a solution can be based on a notifier mechanism.
Freezing has to happen in the order in which drivers and filesystems have
been stacked (filesystem > md device > filesystem for the above example).
Since the order in which notifiers are called is related to the order in
which notifiers have been registered I don't think that a solution for the
example I described can be based on notifiers. What I think we need is a
mechanism for traversing the storage stack that includes block drivers and
an equivalent of freeze_fs() for block drivers. Freezing should occur by
calling the freeze_fs() methods for each storage layer starting at the top of
the storage stack and proceeding towards the bottom.

Bart.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-30 20:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-29 23:23 [PATCH 00/11] fs: use freeze_fs on suspend/hibernate Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-29 23:23 ` [PATCH 01/11] fs: provide unlocked helper for freeze_super() Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-30 16:58   ` Jan Kara
2017-11-29 23:23 ` [PATCH 02/11] fs: provide unlocked helper thaw_super() Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-30 16:59   ` Jan Kara
2017-11-29 23:23 ` [PATCH 03/11] fs: add frozen sb state helpers Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-30 17:13   ` Jan Kara
2017-11-30 19:05     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-12-01 11:47       ` Jan Kara
2017-12-01 21:13         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-12-21 11:03           ` Jan Kara
2018-04-18  0:59             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-04-18 10:12               ` Jan Kara
2018-04-20 18:49               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-04-21 23:53                 ` Jan Kara
2018-04-22  1:22                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-04-22  2:53     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-29 23:23 ` [PATCH 04/11] fs: distinguish between user initiated freeze and kernel initiated freeze Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-29 23:23 ` [PATCH 05/11] fs: add iterate_supers_excl() and iterate_supers_reverse_excl() Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-29 23:48   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-30  0:22     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-30  1:34     ` Dave Chinner
2017-11-30  1:40       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-30 16:57   ` Jan Kara
2017-11-29 23:23 ` [PATCH 06/11] fs: freeze on suspend and thaw on resume Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-29 23:23 ` [PATCH 07/11] xfs: remove not needed freezing calls Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-30 16:21   ` Jan Kara
2017-11-30 20:32     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-30 23:30       ` Dave Chinner
2017-11-30 23:40         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-11-29 23:23 ` [PATCH 08/11] ext4: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-29 23:23 ` [PATCH 09/11] f2fs: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-29 23:23 ` [PATCH 10/11] nilfs2: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-29 23:23 ` [PATCH 11/11] jfs: " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-30 16:36 ` [PATCH 00/11] fs: use freeze_fs on suspend/hibernate Yu Chen
2017-11-30 16:41   ` Jiri Kosina
2017-11-30 16:50     ` Yu Chen
2017-12-01 19:05     ` Jeff Layton
2017-12-01 21:51       ` Dave Chinner
2017-11-30 17:01 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-11-30 19:42   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-11-30 20:53     ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
2017-11-30 21:03       ` Dave Chinner
2017-11-30 21:51 ` Pavel Machek
2017-12-01  0:44   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-12-13  1:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-19 16:50   ` Luis R. Rodriguez

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