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From: "Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: "Guenter Roeck" <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	"Alan Cox" <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"Alexander Graf" <agraf@suse.de>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"Lee Jones" <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	"Len Brown" <len.brown@intel.com>, "Pavel Machek" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	"Philippe Rétornaz" <philippe.retornaz@gmail.com>,
	"Romain Perier" <romain.perier@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/47] kernel: Add support for poweroff handler call chain
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 14:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1752920.2kdbbr5GW9@diego> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41603148.RJg26vx0Wv@vostro.rjw.lan>

Am Dienstag, 21. Oktober 2014, 14:26:10 schrieb Rafael J. Wysocki:
> On Monday, October 20, 2014 09:12:17 PM Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > Various drivers implement architecture and/or device specific means to
> > remove power from the system.  For the most part, those drivers set the
> > global variable pm_power_off to point to a function within the driver.
> > 
> > This mechanism has a number of drawbacks.  Typically only one scheme
> > to remove power is supported (at least if pm_power_off is used).
> > At least in theory there can be multiple means remove power, some of
> > which may be less desirable. For example, some mechanisms may only
> > power off the CPU or the CPU card, while another may power off the
> > entire system.  Others may really just execute a restart sequence
> > or drop into the ROM monitor. Using pm_power_off can also be racy
> > if the function pointer is set from a driver built as module, as the
> > driver may be in the process of being unloaded when pm_power_off is
> > called. If there are multiple poweroff handlers in the system, removing
> > a module with such a handler may inadvertently reset the pointer to
> > pm_power_off to NULL, leaving the system with no means to remove power.
> > 
> > Introduce a system poweroff handler call chain to solve the described
> > problems.  This call chain is expected to be executed from the
> > architecture specific machine_power_off() function.  Drivers providing
> > system poweroff functionality are expected to register with this call
> > chain. By using the priority field in the notifier block, callers can
> > control poweroff handler execution sequence and thus ensure that the
> > poweroff handler with the optimal capabilities to remove power for a
> > given system is called first.
> 
> Well, I must admit to having second thoughts regarding this particular
> mechanism.  Namely, notifiers don't seem to be the best way of expressing
> what's needed from the design standpoint.
> 
> It looks like we need a list of power off methods and a way to select one
> of them, so it seems that using a plist would be a natural choice here?

I actually like Guenter's approach of traversing a sorted list of poweroff 
methods until one of them really turns off the device.


For example, one device I work on has this strange mechanism where the device 
stays powered on while either a gpio is high or the device is connected to a 
host via usb - it cannot be turned off at all while it is connected via usb.

So the established way of handling poweroff there is to check the usb 
connection and either shutdown or restart [where the bootloader will enter a 
charging cycle and really poweroff the device once it gets disconnected].

If there is only one method to shutdown possible this device-specific behaviour 
would need to be encoded in some sort of poweroff driver, while with Guenter's 
current approach I could just register the gpio-poweroff at a higher priority 
which would then fall down to the lower priority restart if the device stays 
powered due to the usb connection.


Heiko

  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-21 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-21  4:12 [PATCH v2 00/47] kernel: Add support for poweroff handler call chain Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 01/47] " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  6:46   ` Philippe Rétornaz
2014-10-21 13:29     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22  8:02       ` Philippe Rétornaz
2014-10-22 13:22         ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  9:34   ` Johan Hovold
2014-10-21 10:30     ` Lee Jones
2014-10-21 13:32       ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 13:34     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 15:50     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 18:27       ` Johan Hovold
2014-10-21 12:26   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21 12:44     ` Heiko Stübner [this message]
2014-10-21 13:17     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 14:15       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21 16:11         ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 02/47] memory: emif: Use API function to determine poweroff capability Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 18:48   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2014-10-22 22:18     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 03/47] hibernate: Call have_kernel_power_off instead of checking pm_power_off Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 04/47] m68k: Replace mach_power_off with pm_power_off Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22  3:50   ` Greg Ungerer
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 05/47] mfd: as3722: Drop reference to pm_power_off from devicetree bindings Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  8:15   ` Lee Jones
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 06/47] gpio-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 07/47] qnap-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 08/47] kernel: Move pm_power_off to common code Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 15:31   ` Ralf Baechle
2014-10-22 15:43     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-24  9:47   ` James Hogan
2014-10-24 15:53     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-24 10:02   ` [uml-user] " Lennox Wu
2014-10-24 10:03   ` Lennox Wu
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 09/47] mfd: palmas: Register with kernel poweroff handler Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 10/47] mfd: axp20x: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 11/47] mfd: retu: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 12/47] mfd: ab8500-sysctrl: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-27 15:59   ` Linus Walleij
2014-10-27 16:42     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 13/47] mfd: max8907: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 14/47] mfd: tps80031: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 15/47] mfd: dm355evm_msp: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 16/47] mfd: tps6586x: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 17/47] mfd: tps65910: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 18/47] mfd: twl4030-power: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 19/47] mfd: rk808: Register poweroff handler " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 20/47] mfd: rn5t618: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 21/47] ipmi: Register " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 22/47] power/reset: restart-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:32   ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-22 22:19     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 23/47] power/reset: gpio-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:32   ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 24/47] power/reset: as3722-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:33   ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 25/47] power/reset: qnap-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:33   ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 26/47] power/reset: msm-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:33   ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 27/47] power/reset: vexpress-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:34   ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 28/47] power/reset: at91-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:34   ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 29/47] power/reset: ltc2952-poweroff: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 21:35   ` Sebastian Reichel
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 30/47] x86: iris: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 31/47] x86: apm: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  8:46   ` Jiri Kosina
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 32/47] x86: olpc: Register xo1 poweroff handler " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 33/47] staging: nvec: Register " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 34/47] acpi: Register poweroff handler " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21 12:27   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 35/47] arm: Register " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 36/47] arm64: psci: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 11:23   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-10-22 15:38     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 12:52   ` Mark Rutland
2014-10-22 15:37     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 37/47] avr32: atngw100: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 38/47] ia64: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 39/47] m68k: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 40/47] mips: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-22 15:32   ` Ralf Baechle
2014-10-22 15:44     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 41/47] sh: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 42/47] x86: lguest: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:12 ` [PATCH v2 43/47] x86: ce4100: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:13 ` [PATCH v2 44/47] x86: intel-mid: Drop registration of dummy poweroff handlers Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:13 ` [PATCH v2 45/47] x86: pmc_atom: Register poweroff handler with kernel poweroff handler Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:13 ` [PATCH v2 46/47] efi: " Guenter Roeck
2014-10-21  4:13 ` [PATCH v2 47/47] kernel: Remove pm_power_off Guenter Roeck

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