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From: Pavel Machek <pavel-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
To: David Brownell <david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Bernard Blackham
	<bernard-4vSAtV5O1nc0n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>,
	ncunningham-3EexvZdKGZRWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
	linux-pm-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Re: uhci-hcd suspend/resume under the new driver model
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:30:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050314193054.GO5461@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200503141059.26107.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>

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On Po 14-03-05 10:59:25, David Brownell wrote:
> On Monday 14 March 2005 10:44 am, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > > > 	 I'll really need to make pci_choose_state
> > > > "NOP" in the current code, so that it can be safely added to the
> > > > existing drivers.
> > > 
> > > There's no point in adding NOPs.  Why bother?
> > > 
> > > Remember, the original idea behind pci_choose_state() was that
> > > PCI drivers for PM-aware devices could use that instead of their
> > > own dumb mappings between system suspend states (S0, S1, S2, S3,
> > > S4, etc) and PCI states ... which in too many cases was just to
> > > re-use the same numeric value.  That's _never_ going to be a NOP,
> > > unless Linux only ever supports PCI D3hot (ACPI D2) and S3; and
> > > likewise will never be needed for PM-stupid devices, or for those
> > > drivers with actual intelligence (e.g. Ben's video examples).
> > 
> > When I added pci_choose_state to drivers, I commented it as "no code
> > changes". I was wrong.
> 
> That's sort of what I said.  If it's a NOP, why bother?  The
> idea behind such an API was to support S1/S2/S3 suspend levels,
> where D3hot may be sub-optimal.  That's not NOP-ville.  And it
> probably ought to consult ACPI tables on some systems...

Because pm_message_t is not compatible with pci_power_t, you need
something to convert. And that something is pci_choose_state. If more
magic is needed, we'll need new function.

> > pci_choose_state() needs to return d3hot even 
> > for pmsg_freeze, because that's what old code did, and I did not audit
> > all the drivers.
> 
> Seems like a problem to me.  Do S1/S2/S3 transitions even
> need a "freeze" transition?  I thought we'd agreed they don't;

That's not the problem.

Old code put devices into D3hot in swsusp "freeze" case. We'll need to
do the same now, slowly auditing the drivers and removing that
unneccessary D0->D3hot->D0 transition.

								Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-03-14 19:30 UTC|newest]

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     [not found] <20050313101453.GA4820@blackham.com.au>
     [not found] ` <20050313101453.GA4820-4vSAtV5O1nc0n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-13 18:12   ` uhci-hcd suspend/resume under the new driver model Pavel Machek
     [not found]     ` <20050313181225.GC1579-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-13 22:57       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-13 23:20         ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]           ` <20050313232002.GC22635-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-14  2:23             ` Bernard Blackham
     [not found]               ` <20050314022308.GD6008-4vSAtV5O1nc0n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-14  4:03                 ` David Brownell
     [not found]                   ` <200503132003.27555.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-14  8:08                     ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                       ` <20050314080827.GG22635-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-14 18:17                         ` David Brownell
     [not found]                           ` <200503141017.17305.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-14 18:44                             ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                               ` <20050314184454.GL5461-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-14 18:59                                 ` David Brownell
     [not found]                                   ` <200503141059.26107.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-14 19:30                                     ` Pavel Machek [this message]
     [not found]                                       ` <20050314193054.GO5461-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-16 21:05                                         ` David Brownell
     [not found]                                           ` <200503161305.57698.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-16 21:44                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]                                               ` <1111009442.3240.28.camel-r49W/1Cwd2ff0s6lnCXPX/uOuaPYTxhvJwvTLr3MMZM@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-16 22:12                                                 ` David Brownell
     [not found]                                                   ` <200503161412.42387.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-16 22:19                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-16 22:48                                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-03-16 21:57                                             ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-14 22:22                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 22:21                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-14 22:31                 ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0503141717240.620-100000-3WpdWqXrU/qjv4eRiOYp3g@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-14 22:38                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-03-15 21:48                 ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0503151636290.711-100000-3WpdWqXrU/qjv4eRiOYp3g@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-15 21:52                     ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-15 22:11                     ` David Brownell
2005-03-16  3:04                     ` Bernard Blackham
     [not found]                       ` <20050316030448.GA8588-4vSAtV5O1nc0n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-16 15:45                         ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                           ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0503161024360.1040-100000-3WpdWqXrU/qjv4eRiOYp3g@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-16 16:52                             ` Bernard Blackham
     [not found]                               ` <20050316165239.GA10545-4vSAtV5O1nc0n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-16 18:44                                 ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0503161336500.1040-100000-3WpdWqXrU/qjv4eRiOYp3g@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-17  1:10                                     ` Bernard Blackham
     [not found]                                       ` <20050317011013.GD10545-4vSAtV5O1nc0n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-17  3:57                                         ` Alan Stern
2005-03-16 21:09                             ` David Brownell
     [not found]                               ` <200503161309.34142.david-b-yBeKhBN/0LDR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-16 22:10                                 ` Alan Stern

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