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From: Pavel Machek <pavel-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
To: dtor_core-yWtbtysYrB+LZ21kGMrzwg@public.gmane.org
Cc: Linux-pm mailing list
	<linux-pm-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>,
	Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Stefan Seyfried <seife-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>,
	kernel list
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Andy Isaacson <adi-3HqRAUrWAWyGglJvpFV4uA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: swsusp 'disk' fails in bk-current - intel_agp at fault?
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:52:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050329205225.GF8125@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d120d50005032912051fee6e91-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

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Hi!

> > > Well, there lies a problem - some devices have to do execve because
> > > they need firmware to operate. Also, again, some buses with
> > > hot-pluggable devices will attempt to clean up unsuccessful resume and
> > > this will cause hotplug events. The point is you either resume system
> > > or you don't. We probably need a separate "unfreeze" callback,
> > > although this is kind of messy.
> > 
> > There's a better solution for firmware: You should load your firmware
> > prior to suspend and store it in RAM. Anything else just plain does
> > not work. (Because your wireless firmware might be on NFS mounted over
> > that wireless card).
> > 
> > Hotplug... I guess udev just needs to hold that callbacks before
> > system is fully up... it has to do something similar on regular boot,
> > no?
> 
> Well, I did not really look into udev but hotplug (which can iteract
> with udev) does not keep anything. If it fails its ok - that's why
> there are coldplug scripts that "recover" lost events. But here we
> block trying to start hotplug - we not getting an error - and this is
> bad. Unfortunately I am not familiar with block devices working to say
> why it hangs.
> 
> Should we pull Jens into the discussion?

I don't really want us to try execve during resume... Could we simply
artifically fail that execve with something if (in_suspend()) return
-EINVAL; [except that in_suspend() just is not there, but there were
some proposals to add it].

Or just avoid calling hotplug at all in resume case? And then do
coldplug-like scan when userspace is ready...

But we perhaps should cc linux-pm list.
								Pavel
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Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]                   ` <d120d50005032912051fee6e91-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-29 20:52                     ` Pavel Machek [this message]
     [not found]                       ` <20050329205225.GF8125-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-29 21:07                         ` swsusp 'disk' fails in bk-current - intel_agp at fault? Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]                           ` <d120d500050329130714e1daaf-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-29 21:12                             ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                               ` <20050329211239.GG8125-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-29 21:33                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]                                   ` <d120d50005032913331be39802-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-29 21:44                                     ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                       ` <20050329214408.GH8125-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-29 22:31                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]                                           ` <1112135477.29392.16.camel-r49W/1Cwd2ff0s6lnCXPX/uOuaPYTxhvJwvTLr3MMZM@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-29 22:35                                             ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                               ` <20050329223519.GI8125-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-29 23:46                                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-03-31  7:26                                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]                                                   ` <200503310226.03495.dtor_core-yWtbtysYrB+LZ21kGMrzwg@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-31  8:39                                                     ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                       ` <20050331083909.GA1387-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-31 15:02                                                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-03-31 16:02                                                     ` Patrick Mochel
     [not found]                                                       ` <Pine.LNX.4.50.0503310801410.15519-100000-x8k/2hhmB0w5etPau2IXcQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-31 16:32                                                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]                                                           ` <d120d50005033108321c8f4ae7-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-31 22:16                                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-03-31 22:18                                                             ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                                                               ` <20050331221814.GC1802-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-31 22:28                                                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
     [not found]                                                                   ` <1112308137.18871.7.camel-r49W/1Cwd2ff0s6lnCXPX/uOuaPYTxhvJwvTLr3MMZM@public.gmane.org>
2005-04-01  8:49                                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                                                       ` <200504011049.01540.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2005-04-01 10:33                                                                         ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-03-29 23:05                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-03-29 21:23                         ` Patrick Mochel
     [not found]                           ` <Pine.LNX.4.50.0503291321490.29474-100000-x8k/2hhmB0w5etPau2IXcQ@public.gmane.org>
2005-03-29 21:38                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-03-30  9:52                             ` Greg KH

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