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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: freeze_processes questions
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:02:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200504052002.30245.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200504051153.11481.rjw@sisk.pl>

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Hi,

On Tuesday, 5 of April 2005 11:53, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Tuesday, 5 of April 2005 11:27, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Hi!
> > > 
> > > I have two questions regarding freeze_processes():
> > > 
> > > 1) Shouldn't we take the TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE state into consideration?  Now
> > > we will fail if a process is sleeping when we try to freeze it.
> > 
> > We can't allow processes to sleep at arbitrary places. Therefore we
> > send UNINTERRUPTIBLE task a signal, and hope it can get into
> > refrigerator in time.
> 
> Hm, AFAIK we can't kill an UNINTERRUPTIBLE process, can we?  Which means that
> we can't deliver a signal to it too ...

Well, the problem is that signal_wake_up() is not sufficient to make
an uninterruptible task get the signal.  It only sets TIF_SIGPENDING for the
task, which is not quite good,  IMHO (when the task finally wakes up,
it gets the "signal" and enters refrigerator(), because it has PF_FREEZE set,
and stays there forever, as there's nothing that could clear PF_FROZEN for
it).

I think it may be fixed in one of the two ways:

1) We can treat uninterruptible tasks as non-freezable (in analogy to stopped
tasks) - if all of the other tasks are frozen, nothing can wake up an uninterruptible
task, so this seems to be a safe approach.

2) We can try to force uninterruptible tasks to get their "signals" anyway using
wake_up_state() directly on them (which I don't like as much).

Greets,
Rafael


-- 
- Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?
- That depends a good deal on where you want to get to.
		-- Lewis Carroll "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland"

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-05 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-05  9:20 freeze_processes questions Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-05  9:27 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-05  9:53   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-05 18:02     ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2005-04-05 18:17       ` Alan Stern
2005-04-05 18:33         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-05 20:37       ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-05 22:46         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-05 22:57           ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-05 23:10             ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-04-06  6:41               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-06 19:06               ` Alan Stern
2005-04-06 20:52                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-06 21:03                   ` Alan Stern
2005-04-06 21:26                     ` David Brownell
2005-04-06 21:17                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-06 21:35                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-06 22:07                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-04-06 22:41                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-07 14:41                           ` Alan Stern
2005-04-07 17:17                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-07 14:43                         ` Alan Stern
2005-04-07 17:26                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-07  9:11                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-07 12:29                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-07 12:47                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-04-07 14:36                           ` Alan Stern
2005-04-07 18:03                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-07 20:00                               ` Alan Stern
2005-04-07 20:59                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-07 22:09                                   ` Alan Stern
2005-04-08  6:20                                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-08  9:13                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-07 21:03                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-08  6:23                                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-08 11:23                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-04-11 23:59                                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-27  9:30                                       ` Li Shaohua
2005-04-27  9:53                                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-04-28  4:48                                           ` Li Shaohua
2005-04-28  5:05                                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-04-28  5:21                                               ` Li Shaohua
2005-04-28  5:49                                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-04-28  6:01                                                   ` Li Shaohua
2005-04-28  6:21                                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-04-28  8:15                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-28  8:14                                             ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-28 15:19                                               ` Stefan Seyfried
2005-04-28 18:47                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-08  7:20                               ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-06 21:34               ` David Brownell
2005-04-06 22:03                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-04-06 22:20                   ` David Brownell
2005-04-07  9:09                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-08  6:23               ` Pavel Machek
2005-04-08  7:18                 ` Nigel Cunningham

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