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From: Olivier Galibert <galibert@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] userland swsusp
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:12:04 +0100
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On Thu, Nov 17, 2005 at 02:57:11PM -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 18:02 +0100, Olivier Galibert wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 11:05:00PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > Now... if something can be
> > > done in userspace, it probably should.
> > 
> > And that usually means it just isn't done.  Cases in point:
> > multichannel audio software mixing, video pixel formats conversion.
> 
> What are you talking about?  ALSA does mixing in userspace, it works
> great.

You have an interesting definition of "great".

1- It doesn't work without an annoyingly complex, extremely badly
   documented user configuration. To the point that it doesn't work in
   either an out-of-the-box, updated Fedora Core 3 nor an
   out-of-the-box gentoo.

2- It doesn't work for programs that do not use the annoyingly complex
   and horribly documented alsa library, which includes everything
   that still uses OSS[1].

You call that great?  Multiple audio streams is such a basic feature
it should work, period.  No if, no buts, and no obligatory library.
Which doesn't preclude having it in userspace, mind you.  But it
should never have been the _application_'s responsability.

  OG.

[1] Which is so easier to use for normal programs' audio it's not
    funny.

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