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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Re: Hotplug events during sleep transition
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 09:53:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051225085303.GF2183@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0512242115030.9591-100000@netrider.rowland.org>

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Hi!

> At this point I'm starting to feel like the proverbial 
> "man-in-the-middle".  Recently I submitted a patch adding

Rock and a hard place?

> suspend/resume 
> support to the usblp driver.  Greg objected to it because it added 
> explicit checks for whether the driver was suspended before starting up 
> I/O operations.  He said that such checks did not belong in USB drivers, 
> they belonged in the USB core.  (You can read his original comments in
> 
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-usb-devel&m=113418897301873&w=2
> 
> .)  So now what should we do?
> 
> 	Require userspace to rmmod usblp before suspending?

No.

> 	Add suspend and resume methods to usblp, but make it so they
> 	only cancel outstanding I/O, while relying on usbcore to fail
> 	any new I/O requests?

It is not *that* bad, actually. In system suspend/resume cases, no new
I/O requests can happen, because userspace is frozen. Because of
runtime suspend, you should handle I/O errors properly, but you should
handle I/O errors properly, anyway, so... looks like a solution to me.

> Neither of those feels good to me.  The only other options I can think of 
> are:
> 
> 	Unbind usblp in lieu of suspending it.

If this can be done in reasonable ammount of not-too-ugly code, why
not? I think that even Patrick can be convinced by nice patch.

> 	Make usblp check whether it is suspended before submitting any
> 	I/O requests.

Ugly.

								Pavel
-- 
Thanks, Sharp!

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-25  8:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-22 14:28 Hotplug events during sleep transition Alan Stern
2005-12-22 14:34 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-22 18:20   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-22 20:52     ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-22 20:56       ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-12-22 22:13       ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23  3:49         ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-23  3:52           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-23 15:20             ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 15:35               ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-23 16:52                 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 17:20                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-23 21:22                     ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 21:28                       ` Greg KH
2005-12-23 22:09                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-23 22:31                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-23 22:40                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-23 22:48                               ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-23 22:57                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-24  0:29                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-24 15:11                         ` Alan Stern
2005-12-24 15:28                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-24 17:02                           ` Greg KH
2005-12-23 21:28                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-23 19:40                   ` Greg KH
2005-12-24  0:23                   ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-25  2:56                     ` Alan Stern
2005-12-25  8:53                       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2005-12-25 16:43                         ` Alan Stern
2005-12-25 16:52                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-25 19:54                             ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-25 19:52                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-26  3:53                             ` Alan Stern
2005-12-26 21:20                       ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-26 22:50                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-26 23:01                           ` Alan Stern
2005-12-27 21:45                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-27 22:08                               ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-27 22:21                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-27 22:31                                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-27 22:39                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-27 22:44                                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-29  2:07                               ` Alan Stern
2005-12-27 21:09                           ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-27 21:51                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-28  4:36                               ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-28  6:11                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-28 10:59                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-29  2:18                                   ` Alan Stern
2005-12-29  2:55                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-29 11:29                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-30 17:46                                       ` Alan Stern
2006-01-04 23:31                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-05 16:07                                       ` Alan Stern
2006-01-05 19:05                                         ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-29  2:13                                 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-29  2:10                               ` Alan Stern
2005-12-29  5:20                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-30 18:26                                   ` Alan Stern
2005-12-30 19:18                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-30 19:26                                       ` Alan Stern
2005-12-30 19:42                                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-30 20:13                                           ` Alan Stern
2005-12-29  2:02                             ` Alan Stern
2005-12-30 18:34                               ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-30 19:21                                 ` Alan Stern
2006-01-02 23:49                                   ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-26 23:25                         ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 18:32                 ` Dmitry Torokhov

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