From: Dmitry Torokhov <dtor_core@ameritech.net>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Re: Hotplug events during sleep transition
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 00:20:14 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200512290020.16246.dtor_core@ameritech.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0512282108100.3218-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
On Wednesday 28 December 2005 21:10, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
>
> > > Would it be possible to simply mark the device as 'removed' and ignore it
> > > until we resumed, and then clean it up (hotplug events and everything)?
> > >
> >
> > Unfortunately swsusp resumes devices in the middle of suspend process
> > with everything frozen and drivers don't know if they may clean up or
> > have to postpone doing so.
>
> Drivers should strive to avoid cleaning up after removed devices during
> their resume methods in any case. Such cleanups shouldn't happen until
> userspace has been unfrozen.
>
> > To do it uniformly you'd need to introduce
> > threads and offload cleanups. I doubt it is good idea to require each
> > subsystem to define cleanup thread or [ab]used keventd?
>
> Why do you need a new cleanup thread? What's wrong with the existing
> strategy for handling removed devices -- i.e., the procedure that would
> have been followed if there was no suspend/resume transition?
>
Sometimes there is no such procedure. For example if you yank PS/2 mouse
there is no way for the system to detect it's missing. Only when you try
to resume and mouse does not respond you realize it's gone. I bet there
are other devices like that.
--
Dmitry
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-29 5:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-22 14:28 Hotplug events during sleep transition Alan Stern
2005-12-22 14:34 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-22 18:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-22 20:52 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-22 20:56 ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-12-22 22:13 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 3:49 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-23 3:52 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-23 15:20 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 15:35 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-23 16:52 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 17:20 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-23 21:22 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 21:28 ` Greg KH
2005-12-23 22:09 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-23 22:31 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-23 22:40 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-23 22:48 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-23 22:57 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-24 0:29 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-24 15:11 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-24 15:28 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-24 17:02 ` Greg KH
2005-12-23 21:28 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-23 19:40 ` Greg KH
2005-12-24 0:23 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-25 2:56 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-25 8:53 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-25 16:43 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-25 16:52 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-25 19:54 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-25 19:52 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-26 3:53 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-26 21:20 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-26 22:50 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-26 23:01 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-27 21:45 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-27 22:08 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-27 22:21 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-27 22:31 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-27 22:39 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-27 22:44 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-29 2:07 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-27 21:09 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-27 21:51 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-28 4:36 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-28 6:11 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-28 10:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-29 2:18 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-29 2:55 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-29 11:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-30 17:46 ` Alan Stern
2006-01-04 23:31 ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-05 16:07 ` Alan Stern
2006-01-05 19:05 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-29 2:13 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-29 2:10 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-29 5:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2005-12-30 18:26 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-30 19:18 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-30 19:26 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-30 19:42 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-30 20:13 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-29 2:02 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-30 18:34 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-30 19:21 ` Alan Stern
2006-01-02 23:49 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-26 23:25 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 18:32 ` Dmitry Torokhov
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