From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: ncunningham@cyclades.com
Cc: Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Re: Hotplug events during sleep transition
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 12:29:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200512291229.44687.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1135824932.4774.20.camel@localhost>
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Hi,
On Thursday, 29 December 2005 03:55, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 12:18, Alan Stern wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Dec 2005, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >
> > > I think for a (suspended) device that can be removed, unplugged, undocked,
> > > etc. (call it "removable") the most natural place in which we can detect
> > > that the device is no longer accessible is the device driver's .resume()
> > > routine, at least as far as swsusp is concerned.
> >
> > No. The most natural place in which we can detect that a device is no
> > longer accessible is the place where we already do these detections. Not
> > in the resume routine.
> >
> > > IMO .resume() should check if the device is still there and if not, it should
> > > put the device on a list of "no-longer-present devices" and just return.
> > > After the .resume() routines of all devices have completed, the list can
> > > be processed by something (a kernel thread?) that will do the changes
> > > on whatever level is necessary.
> >
> > Often the device-specific resume routine doesn't have the information
> > needed for checking whether the device is still there. Such checks are
> > done by generic bus-oriented routines.
> >
> > Yes, the bus's resume handler can do such a check. Why should it bother,
> > when other parts of the bus code will detect the device removal in the
> > normal course of events? Or alternatively, why shouldn't the bus's resume
> > handler simply invoke those other parts of the bus code when it determines
> > that a device has been removed?
>
> I guess because the resume routine is almost certainly the first piece
> of code that will try to access the hardware (and possibly choke and die
> it it's not there).
This is what I had in mind.
Greetings,
Rafael
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Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-22 14:28 Hotplug events during sleep transition Alan Stern
2005-12-22 14:34 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-22 18:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-22 20:52 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-22 20:56 ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-12-22 22:13 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 3:49 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-23 3:52 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-23 15:20 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 15:35 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-23 16:52 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 17:20 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-23 21:22 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 21:28 ` Greg KH
2005-12-23 22:09 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-23 22:31 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-23 22:40 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-23 22:48 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-23 22:57 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-24 0:29 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-24 15:11 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-24 15:28 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-24 17:02 ` Greg KH
2005-12-23 21:28 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-23 19:40 ` Greg KH
2005-12-24 0:23 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-25 2:56 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-25 8:53 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-25 16:43 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-25 16:52 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-25 19:54 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-25 19:52 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-26 3:53 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-26 21:20 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-26 22:50 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-26 23:01 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-27 21:45 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-27 22:08 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-27 22:21 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-27 22:31 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-27 22:39 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-27 22:44 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-29 2:07 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-27 21:09 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-27 21:51 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-28 4:36 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-28 6:11 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-28 10:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-29 2:18 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-29 2:55 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-29 11:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2005-12-30 17:46 ` Alan Stern
2006-01-04 23:31 ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-05 16:07 ` Alan Stern
2006-01-05 19:05 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-29 2:13 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-29 2:10 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-29 5:20 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-30 18:26 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-30 19:18 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-30 19:26 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-30 19:42 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-30 20:13 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-29 2:02 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-30 18:34 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-30 19:21 ` Alan Stern
2006-01-02 23:49 ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-26 23:25 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 18:32 ` Dmitry Torokhov
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