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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: ncunningham@cyclades.com
Cc: Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Re: Hotplug events during sleep transition
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 12:29:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200512291229.44687.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1135824932.4774.20.camel@localhost>

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Hi,

On Thursday, 29 December 2005 03:55, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 12:18, Alan Stern wrote:
> > On Wed, 28 Dec 2005, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > 
> > > I think for a (suspended) device that can be removed, unplugged, undocked,
> > > etc. (call it "removable") the most natural place in which we can detect
> > > that the device is no longer accessible is the device driver's .resume()
> > > routine, at least as far as swsusp is concerned.
> > 
> > No.  The most natural place in which we can detect that a device is no 
> > longer accessible is the place where we already do these detections.  Not 
> > in the resume routine.
> > 
> > > IMO .resume() should check if the device is still there and if not, it should
> > > put the device on a list of "no-longer-present devices" and just return.
> > > After the .resume() routines of all devices have completed, the list can
> > > be processed by something (a kernel thread?) that will do the changes
> > > on whatever level is necessary.
> > 
> > Often the device-specific resume routine doesn't have the information
> > needed for checking whether the device is still there.  Such checks are 
> > done by generic bus-oriented routines.
> > 
> > Yes, the bus's resume handler can do such a check.  Why should it bother,
> > when other parts of the bus code will detect the device removal in the
> > normal course of events?  Or alternatively, why shouldn't the bus's resume
> > handler simply invoke those other parts of the bus code when it determines
> > that a device has been removed?
> 
> I guess because the resume routine is almost certainly the first piece
> of code that will try to access the hardware (and possibly choke and die
> it it's not there).

This is what I had in mind.

Greetings,
Rafael

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-29 11:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-22 14:28 Hotplug events during sleep transition Alan Stern
2005-12-22 14:34 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-22 18:20   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-22 20:52     ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-22 20:56       ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-12-22 22:13       ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23  3:49         ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-23  3:52           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-23 15:20             ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 15:35               ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-23 16:52                 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 17:20                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-23 21:22                     ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 21:28                       ` Greg KH
2005-12-23 22:09                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-23 22:31                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-23 22:40                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-23 22:48                               ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-23 22:57                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-24  0:29                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-24 15:11                         ` Alan Stern
2005-12-24 15:28                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-24 17:02                           ` Greg KH
2005-12-23 21:28                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-23 19:40                   ` Greg KH
2005-12-24  0:23                   ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-25  2:56                     ` Alan Stern
2005-12-25  8:53                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-25 16:43                         ` Alan Stern
2005-12-25 16:52                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-25 19:54                             ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-25 19:52                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-26  3:53                             ` Alan Stern
2005-12-26 21:20                       ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-26 22:50                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-26 23:01                           ` Alan Stern
2005-12-27 21:45                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-27 22:08                               ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-27 22:21                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-27 22:31                                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-27 22:39                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-27 22:44                                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-29  2:07                               ` Alan Stern
2005-12-27 21:09                           ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-27 21:51                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-28  4:36                               ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-28  6:11                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-28 10:59                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-29  2:18                                   ` Alan Stern
2005-12-29  2:55                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-29 11:29                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2005-12-30 17:46                                       ` Alan Stern
2006-01-04 23:31                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-05 16:07                                       ` Alan Stern
2006-01-05 19:05                                         ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-29  2:13                                 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-29  2:10                               ` Alan Stern
2005-12-29  5:20                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-30 18:26                                   ` Alan Stern
2005-12-30 19:18                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-30 19:26                                       ` Alan Stern
2005-12-30 19:42                                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-30 20:13                                           ` Alan Stern
2005-12-29  2:02                             ` Alan Stern
2005-12-30 18:34                               ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-30 19:21                                 ` Alan Stern
2006-01-02 23:49                                   ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-26 23:25                         ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 18:32                 ` Dmitry Torokhov

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