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From: Dmitry Torokhov <dtor_core@ameritech.net>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Re: Hotplug events during sleep transition
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:18:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200512301418.46197.dtor_core@ameritech.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0512301323000.32015-100000@netrider.rowland.org>

On Friday 30 December 2005 13:26, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> 
> > > Why do you need a new cleanup thread?  What's wrong with the existing 
> > > strategy for handling removed devices -- i.e., the procedure that would 
> > > have been followed if there was no suspend/resume transition?
> > > 
> > 
> > Sometimes there is no such procedure. For example if you yank PS/2 mouse
> > there is no way for the system to detect it's missing. Only when you try
> > to resume and mouse does not respond you realize it's gone. I bet there
> > are other devices like that. 
> 
> There may indeed be other devices like that.  If you can't handle device 
> removal while the system is running normally, why should you be able to 
> handle device removal while the system is suspended?
>

Because I can?
 
> Conversely, even if the resume routine does detect somehow that the device 
> was removed, there's nothing it can do with that information if you don't 
> have a mechanism in place for handling device removals.
>

The subsystem can handle device removal, its just hardware does not
give any notification when device is removed so subsystem has to rely
on some external event (such as resume process) to query the device
and check if it is still present. 

-- 
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-30 19:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-22 14:28 Hotplug events during sleep transition Alan Stern
2005-12-22 14:34 ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-22 18:20   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-22 20:52     ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-22 20:56       ` Randy.Dunlap
2005-12-22 22:13       ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23  3:49         ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-23  3:52           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-23 15:20             ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 15:35               ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-23 16:52                 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 17:20                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-23 21:22                     ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 21:28                       ` Greg KH
2005-12-23 22:09                         ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-23 22:31                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-23 22:40                             ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-23 22:48                               ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-23 22:57                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-24  0:29                                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-24 15:11                         ` Alan Stern
2005-12-24 15:28                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-24 17:02                           ` Greg KH
2005-12-23 21:28                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-23 19:40                   ` Greg KH
2005-12-24  0:23                   ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-25  2:56                     ` Alan Stern
2005-12-25  8:53                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-25 16:43                         ` Alan Stern
2005-12-25 16:52                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-25 19:54                             ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-25 19:52                           ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-26  3:53                             ` Alan Stern
2005-12-26 21:20                       ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-26 22:50                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-26 23:01                           ` Alan Stern
2005-12-27 21:45                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-27 22:08                               ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-27 22:21                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-27 22:31                                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-27 22:39                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-27 22:44                                       ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-29  2:07                               ` Alan Stern
2005-12-27 21:09                           ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-27 21:51                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-28  4:36                               ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-28  6:11                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-28 10:59                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-29  2:18                                   ` Alan Stern
2005-12-29  2:55                                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2005-12-29 11:29                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2005-12-30 17:46                                       ` Alan Stern
2006-01-04 23:31                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-05 16:07                                       ` Alan Stern
2006-01-05 19:05                                         ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-29  2:13                                 ` Alan Stern
2005-12-29  2:10                               ` Alan Stern
2005-12-29  5:20                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-30 18:26                                   ` Alan Stern
2005-12-30 19:18                                     ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2005-12-30 19:26                                       ` Alan Stern
2005-12-30 19:42                                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-12-30 20:13                                           ` Alan Stern
2005-12-29  2:02                             ` Alan Stern
2005-12-30 18:34                               ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-30 19:21                                 ` Alan Stern
2006-01-02 23:49                                   ` Patrick Mochel
2005-12-26 23:25                         ` Alan Stern
2005-12-23 18:32                 ` Dmitry Torokhov

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