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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>
Cc: alon.barlev@gmail.com, torvalds@osdl.org,
	linux-pm@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mrmacman_g4@mac.com
Subject: Re: Flames over -- Re: Which is simpler?
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 22:32:21 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060218223221.6df891d3.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43F80A06.2090209@cfl.rr.com>

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Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > But I suspect we could do an even better job if we did that in userspace.
>  > 
>  > The logic to determine whether the new device is the same as the old device
>  > can be arbitrarily complex, with increasing levels of success.  Various
>  > heuristics can be applied, some of which will involve knowledge of
>  > filesystem layout, etc.
>  > 
>  > So would it not be possible to optionally punt the device naming decision
>  > up to the hotplug scripts?  So code up there can go do direct-IO reads of
>  > the newly-present blockdev, use filesytem layout knowledge, peek at UUIDs,
>  > superblocks, disk labels, partition tables, inode numbering, etc?  Go look
>  > up a database, work out what that filesystem was doing last time we saw it,
>  > etc?
>  > 
>  > We could of course add things to the filesystems to help this process, but
>  > it'd be good if all the state tracking and magic didn't have to be locked
>  > up in the kernel.
> 
> 
>  Hrm... interesting but sounds like that could be sticky.  For instance, 
>  what if the user script that does the verifying happens to be ON the 
>  volume to be verified?

Well that would be a bug.  Solutions would be a) don't put the scripts on a
removable/power-downable device or b) use tmpfs.

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-19  6:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20060217210445.GR3490@openzaurus.ucw.cz>
2006-02-18 21:04 ` Flames over -- Re: Which is simpler? Alan Stern
2006-02-19  0:02   ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19  6:02     ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19  6:32       ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-02-19 16:39         ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-19 16:54           ` Alan Stern
2006-02-19 20:02             ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-19 20:44               ` Oliver Neukum
2006-02-19 21:02                 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-20  6:55                   ` Oliver Neukum
2006-02-20  7:29                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-20  7:57                       ` Andrew Morton
     [not found] <200602132327.10475.rjw@sisk.pl>
2006-02-14 19:26 ` Alan Stern
2006-02-14 20:41   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-02-14 21:08     ` Lee Revell
2006-02-15 15:56     ` Alan Stern

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