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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-pm@osdl.org, Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>,
	"Victor Porton, , , " <porton@ex-code.com>
Subject: Re: Re: standby to disk transition
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:24:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060313212420.GG10348@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060313183318.GB26234@redhat.com>

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On Po 13-03-06 13:33:18, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 10:13:32AM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
>  > On Po 13-03-06 04:07:59, Adam Belay wrote:
>  > > On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 09:50:42AM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
>  > > > On Po 13-03-06 03:48:11, Adam Belay wrote:
>  > > > > The timeout feature could be done using the ACPI alarm interface, but there's
>  > > > > no reliable way of knowing how long the system can remain in a suspend state
>  > > > > on the x86 mobile platform, so waking up at the right time would be tricky if
>  > > > > not impossible.
>  > > > 
>  > > > Make it an hour... System should be able to stay suspended for an
>  > > > hour. IIRC Apple did something like this? I'd just be slightly worried
>  > > > about machine waking up itself just when you hit the turbulence in the
>  > > > airplane, or something like that. 
>  > > 
>  > > Hmm, but let's say the battery is 40% charged.  Then it's not very clear if it
>  > > will last an hour.  All of a sudden the issue becomes system specific, or it
>  > > may even depend on things like whether wake-on-lan is enabled,
>  > >right?
>  > 
>  > 40% battery should still last 10+ hours in suspend-to-RAM, unless
>  > something is wrong.
>  > 
>  > You *could* wakeup every minute or so to check the battery state; some
>  > PDAs actually do that.
> 
> if suspend-to-disk is fast enough, you could just *always* write
> to disk, even if we're doing S3.  If power runs out, you then have a
> valid resume image on-disk.  iirc, this is what Windows does.

Yep, I call that suspend-to-both. It is planned, but not really
trivial, and I'm a little busy. If someone wants to help....
								Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-13 21:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-13  2:34 standby to disk transition Victor Porton,,,
2006-03-13  8:30 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13  8:48   ` Adam Belay
2006-03-13  8:50     ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13  9:07       ` Adam Belay
2006-03-13  9:13         ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13 18:33           ` Dave Jones
2006-03-13 21:24             ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-03-13 21:28               ` Dave Jones
2006-03-13 21:46                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13 22:06                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-13 21:59                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-03-13 22:08                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13 22:42                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-13 23:11                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-03-13 23:36                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-14  0:18                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-03-14 18:12                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-14 20:33                           ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-14 21:13                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-14 21:22                               ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-14 21:42                                 ` Alan Stern
2006-03-14 22:07                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-15 15:14                                     ` Alan Stern
2006-03-14 21:57                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-14 21:59                               ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-15  0:22                                 ` suspend-to-both [was Re: Re: standby to disk transition] Pavel Machek
2006-03-14 20:29                         ` Re: standby to disk transition Pavel Machek
2006-03-14  0:21               ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-03-14  9:50                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13 13:55     ` Nigel Cunningham

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