From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: linux-pm@lists.osdl.org
Cc: Nigel Cunningham <nigel@suspend2.net>,
linux-pm@osdl.org, "Victor Porton, , , " <porton@ex-code.com>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: Re: standby to disk transition
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:42:37 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200603132342.37691.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060313220811.GL10348@elf.ucw.cz>
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On Monday 13 March 2006 23:08, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > Yep, I call that suspend-to-both. It is planned, but not really
> > > > trivial, and I'm a little busy. If someone wants to help....
> > >
> > > I was thinking a few days ago. With your move of all this stuff to
> > > userspace, if it was done in multiple stages, we could implement
> > > a form of checkpointing this way.
> > >
> > > So instead of doing the 'suspend to disk/ram' after 'write out all pages',
> > > we just continue.
> > >
> > > Why is this useful ? We've seen bugs reported that only ever bite
> > > customers after they've run their workload for a month. Now, if they had a
> > > means of checkpointing, then when it crashes, they could capture the last
> > > image that landed somewhere, and set that up for more tests/monitoring with
> > > kprobes etc and reproduce those hard-to-reproduce bugs a lot faster.
> >
> > I've been asked about this from time to time too. Apart from the issues Pavel
> > has already mentioned, the big problem in my mind was figuring out what to do
> > about disk storage. As the algorithm stands at the moment, the image includes
> > information about the state of mounted filesystems. We'd need to somehow get
> > rid of or be able to ignore that. Any suggestions?
>
> Well, copying all the filesystems would work, as would having no
> filesystems at all :-) [ramdisk case]. And perhaps practical
> equivalent of "copy all filesystems" can be done with device mapper.
>
> [Of course, you'd have to copy all the filesystems back before doing
> resume].
If we had anything like fs suspend/resume, we could handle such things.
We could also handle the "USB device mounted before suspend" problem
(I think it's related).
Greetings,
Rafael
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Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-13 2:34 standby to disk transition Victor Porton,,,
2006-03-13 8:30 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13 8:48 ` Adam Belay
2006-03-13 8:50 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13 9:07 ` Adam Belay
2006-03-13 9:13 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13 18:33 ` Dave Jones
2006-03-13 21:24 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13 21:28 ` Dave Jones
2006-03-13 21:46 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13 22:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-13 21:59 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-03-13 22:08 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13 22:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2006-03-13 23:11 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-03-13 23:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-14 0:18 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-03-14 18:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-14 20:33 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-14 21:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-14 21:22 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-14 21:42 ` Alan Stern
2006-03-14 22:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-15 15:14 ` Alan Stern
2006-03-14 21:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-14 21:59 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-15 0:22 ` suspend-to-both [was Re: Re: standby to disk transition] Pavel Machek
2006-03-14 20:29 ` Re: standby to disk transition Pavel Machek
2006-03-14 0:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-03-14 9:50 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13 13:55 ` Nigel Cunningham
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