From: Nigel Cunningham <nigel@suspend2.net>
To: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-pm@osdl.org, "Victor Porton, , , " <porton@ex-code.com>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: Re: standby to disk transition
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:59:07 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200603140759.15754.nigel@suspend2.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060313212856.GA16874@redhat.com>
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Hi Dave.
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 07:28, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 10:24:20PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > if suspend-to-disk is fast enough, you could just *always* write
> > > to disk, even if we're doing S3. If power runs out, you then have a
> > > valid resume image on-disk. iirc, this is what Windows does.
> >
> > Yep, I call that suspend-to-both. It is planned, but not really
> > trivial, and I'm a little busy. If someone wants to help....
>
> I was thinking a few days ago. With your move of all this stuff to
> userspace, if it was done in multiple stages, we could implement
> a form of checkpointing this way.
>
> So instead of doing the 'suspend to disk/ram' after 'write out all pages',
> we just continue.
>
> Why is this useful ? We've seen bugs reported that only ever bite
> customers after they've run their workload for a month. Now, if they had a
> means of checkpointing, then when it crashes, they could capture the last
> image that landed somewhere, and set that up for more tests/monitoring with
> kprobes etc and reproduce those hard-to-reproduce bugs a lot faster.
I've been asked about this from time to time too. Apart from the issues Pavel
has already mentioned, the big problem in my mind was figuring out what to do
about disk storage. As the algorithm stands at the moment, the image includes
information about the state of mounted filesystems. We'd need to somehow get
rid of or be able to ignore that. Any suggestions?
Regards,
Nigel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-03-13 21:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-03-13 2:34 standby to disk transition Victor Porton,,,
2006-03-13 8:30 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13 8:48 ` Adam Belay
2006-03-13 8:50 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13 9:07 ` Adam Belay
2006-03-13 9:13 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13 18:33 ` Dave Jones
2006-03-13 21:24 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13 21:28 ` Dave Jones
2006-03-13 21:46 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13 22:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-13 21:59 ` Nigel Cunningham [this message]
2006-03-13 22:08 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13 22:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-13 23:11 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-03-13 23:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-14 0:18 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-03-14 18:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-14 20:33 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-14 21:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-14 21:22 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-14 21:42 ` Alan Stern
2006-03-14 22:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-15 15:14 ` Alan Stern
2006-03-14 21:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-03-14 21:59 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-15 0:22 ` suspend-to-both [was Re: Re: standby to disk transition] Pavel Machek
2006-03-14 20:29 ` Re: standby to disk transition Pavel Machek
2006-03-14 0:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-03-14 9:50 ` Pavel Machek
2006-03-13 13:55 ` Nigel Cunningham
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