Hi. On Wednesday 14 June 2006 10:18, Greg KH wrote: > On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 10:00:08AM +1000, Nigel Cunningham wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Wednesday 14 June 2006 09:46, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, David Brownell wrote: > > > > Here's a related patch (well, "hack") I found helpful ... > > > > specifically to help let _serial_ consoles be more useful. > > > > > > I just checked. > > > > > > I think exactly _two_ of the six machines I have around my desk have > > > serial ports, and of those two, one is permanently turned off because > > > it's old, noisy, and just not interesting. > > > > > > Maybe I'm more progressive than most, but I personally consider serial > > > lines pretty much dead. > > > > Usb to serial converters are not completely unheard of, though. My old > > omnibook even came with one. It's the one bit I still use :) > > But you need interrupts to work for usb to serial devices, and the whole > usb stack up and running. Even though you can get console messages > through these devices, it's a bad hack and I wouldn't recommend it for > anyone. Yeah. That converter is far more useful for being the debugger instead of the debuggee. I should have thought more carefully before speaking. Sorry. Nigel -- Nigel, Michelle and Alisdair Cunningham 5 Mitchell Street Cobden 3266 Victoria, Australia