From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Pavel Machek Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Fix console handling during suspend/resume Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 01:31:37 +0200 Message-ID: <20060622233137.GE4462@elf.ucw.cz> References: <1150938119.16303.99.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1150946286.947.50.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1150952298.3633.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1151014893.4046.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1151017911.4046.55.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: linux-pm-bounces@lists.osdl.org Errors-To: linux-pm-bounces@lists.osdl.org To: Linus Torvalds Cc: David Brownell , linux-pm@lists.osdl.org List-Id: linux-pm@vger.kernel.org Hi! > > The main reason is the video problem (chips not coming back on resume > > and needing a POST). This has always been the main issue and that's what > > is causing STR not to work for a lot of people. > = > No. > = > Not for me. Every single time something doesn't work for me, I just plug = > it into the network and try to debug it over the net. Well, apparently you were the first one to try to use netconsole for s2ram debugging. Sorry -- we were using regular vgacon. > > The model does and I think your model would 1- break all existing > > drivers that got it right since they have to be changed > = > Actually, it won't break a single driver for STR. > = > Why? Because if you do it the old way, STR will still happen to work. I'm = > just giving you a separate phase. Separate phase, that Ben demonstrated is totally useless. How is that supposed to help? > So you say. Have you actually ever done anything to make debugging easier? > = > Nope. In the years I've been frustrated with suspend, nobody has ever don= e = > anything to this. And now I have to push through changes, just because = > people think that "status quo" is acceptable. It actually works on a lot of machines. Maybe we are pushing way too much work to drivers... but that should be solved by providing subsystem-specific helpers, not by changing the design. Pavel -- = (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blo= g.html