From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Greg KH Subject: Re: OSDL Power Management call 8/24/2006 8 a.m. Pacific Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:00:20 -0700 Message-ID: <20060823220020.GA16302@kroah.com> References: <20060823213010.GB12096@kroah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: linux-pm-bounces@lists.osdl.org Errors-To: linux-pm-bounces@lists.osdl.org To: Preece Scott-PREECE Cc: "Miller, Marc" , linux-pm@lists.osdl.org List-Id: linux-pm@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 05:46:25PM -0400, Preece Scott-PREECE wrote: > = > Well, OSDL is one of several groups formed to try to encourage > development in areas that its member companies prefer. OSDL has > topic-specific working groups, which consist of people from member > companies who are interested in specific technology areas. Those working > groups meet so they can educate each other, coordinate activity, > prioritize OSDL's activities on the specific topics, attempt to reach > consensus on the direction the members would like to encourage, and so > forth. = I for one, am very familiar with what OSDL does, on many levels, but thanks for the summary :) > I'm not sure why you think it's outside "the standard process" to issue > an open invitation to community members to attend a WG meeting. Because kernel development doesn't happen at WG meetings. It happens when code is posted. To think otherwise is to not understand the kernel development process. > I don't think there's a lot of point to pretending that, just because > kernel contributions come from individuals, those individuals are > independent. I never made such a statement. > You think Intel and Motorola and other companies with a growing stake in > the open source market don't have internal meetings to organize their > activity, as well as participating in groups like OSDL, CELF, etc.? Again, I never made such a statement. I do however, doubt that a working group meeting is a useful thing for any kernel developer to spend their time attending, unless it is at the behalf of their employer. And I say this as someone who has attended many such meetings at OSDL and other places. Again, I will ask these simple questions: - Why is the community being invited to such a meeting? - Is there a proposed adgenda so that the community members can determine if it is worth their time? thanks, greg k-h