From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: scott.preece@motorola.com, matthew.a.locke@comcast.net,
linux-pm@lists.osdl.org
Subject: Re: So, what's the status on the recent patches here?
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:12:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060904091230.GL9991@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200609032300.k83N0uL6016830@olwen.urbana.css.mot.com>
Hi!
> | Really, I think that the "states" which are entered only after tasks are
> | frozen should be considered as special and handled separately.
> ---
>
> My point is that if the only kernel interface is set-op(), then the code
> in the kernel that implements set-op() is the thing that's going to
> drive the details of suspending the system, just as it does today. The
> abstraction at the kernel interface is about as simple as it can be and
> all the policy issues are moved outside the kernel.
>
> My question is whether there are aspects of suspending, other than
> latency, that the policy manager would need to consider in deciding
> whether to suspend or not.
>
> Look at it this way. In one scheme the policy manager code is:
>
> new_OP = select_transition(current_OP, decision_factors);
> set_OP(new_OP);
No, it would be
new_OP = select_transition(current_OP, decision_factors);
if (new_OP == SUSPEND) {
setup wakeup events ...
}
set_OP(new_OP);
> in the other the policy manager code is:
>
> new_OP = select_transition(current_OP, decision_factors);
> if (new_OP == SUSPEND)
> suspend();
> else
> set_OP(new_OP);
...
> The one question that I see as interesting on that score is whether the
> policy decision to suspend is based on factors that are wholly different
> than the factors that drive frequency/voltage changes. If that were the
> case, then there would be no point to making the decisions in the same
> place. Honestly, I'm not sure of the answer to that...
I'm pretty sure decision to suspend is other factors. Remember most
machines are non-functional during suspend.
Pavel
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2006-09-03 23:00 So, what's the status on the recent patches here? Scott E. Preece
2006-09-04 9:12 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-09-05 10:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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2006-09-05 16:03 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-05 20:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-06 10:56 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-04 15:43 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-03 23:05 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-04 9:09 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-03 22:40 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-04 9:06 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-05 16:45 ` Mark Gross
2006-09-06 10:59 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-03 22:31 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-03 22:41 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-03 22:12 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-03 22:25 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-03 21:34 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-03 21:43 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-03 22:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-03 21:21 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-03 21:54 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-01 14:49 Scott E. Preece
2006-08-31 15:14 Scott E. Preece
2006-08-31 2:41 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-31 0:52 Scott E. Preece
2006-08-25 22:11 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-25 21:21 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-25 21:42 ` Alan Stern
2006-08-25 20:57 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-25 21:13 ` Alan Stern
2006-08-25 20:22 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-25 20:34 ` Alan Stern
2006-08-25 21:27 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-25 21:46 ` Alan Stern
2006-08-25 22:03 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-26 2:21 ` Alan Stern
2006-08-25 20:05 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-25 20:08 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-24 14:52 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-25 19:58 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-24 12:16 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-24 12:29 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-23 19:20 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-24 8:03 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-20 13:36 Woodruff, Richard
2006-08-16 1:27 Scott E. Preece
2006-08-16 15:25 ` Mark Gross
2006-08-14 20:07 Greg KH
2006-08-14 22:24 ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-14 22:46 ` Dave Jones
2006-08-14 23:24 ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-14 23:48 ` Dave Jones
2006-08-15 1:00 ` Greg KH
2006-08-15 3:03 ` Dave Jones
2006-08-15 10:35 ` Amit Kucheria
2006-08-15 19:04 ` Dave Jones
2006-08-16 12:58 ` Igor Stoppa
2006-08-17 21:39 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-18 10:02 ` Igor Stoppa
2006-08-18 15:29 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2006-08-18 17:54 ` Igor Stoppa
2006-08-18 21:05 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2006-08-20 13:19 ` Igor Stoppa
2006-08-17 5:20 ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-17 7:20 ` Paul Mundt
2006-08-17 9:18 ` Amit Kucheria
2006-08-17 21:40 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-18 5:42 ` Vitaly Wool
2006-08-23 12:28 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-23 15:26 ` Igor Stoppa
2006-08-24 12:58 ` Vitaly Wool
2006-08-25 19:55 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-25 23:26 ` Vitaly Wool
2006-08-26 10:18 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-26 13:30 ` Vitaly Wool
2006-08-26 13:46 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-28 16:40 ` Mark Gross
2006-08-28 17:39 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-29 7:51 ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-30 22:13 ` Mark Gross
2006-08-30 22:27 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-18 11:48 ` Amit Kucheria
2006-08-24 7:59 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-30 11:00 ` Amit Kucheria
2006-08-30 22:36 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-31 13:44 ` Amit Kucheria
2006-09-02 11:17 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-17 21:24 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-19 6:10 ` David Singleton
2006-08-22 2:13 ` Greg KH
2006-08-22 5:20 ` David Singleton
2006-08-23 19:05 ` Mark Gross
2006-08-24 12:39 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-19 6:19 ` David Singleton
[not found] ` <20060819184843.GB15644@redhat.com>
2006-08-20 3:20 ` David Singleton
2006-08-20 3:30 ` Dave Jones
2006-08-23 18:50 ` Mark Gross
2006-08-27 4:37 ` David Singleton
2006-08-27 15:41 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-29 15:55 ` David Singleton
2006-08-29 16:34 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-29 17:49 ` Preece Scott-PREECE
2006-08-30 6:20 ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-30 13:26 ` Preece Scott-PREECE
2006-08-30 22:50 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-31 0:22 ` Preece Scott-PREECE
2006-08-31 12:04 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-02 18:05 ` David Singleton
2006-09-02 19:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-03 16:25 ` David Singleton
2006-09-03 20:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-03 21:33 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-09 0:39 ` David Singleton
2006-09-09 0:48 ` David Singleton
2006-09-09 16:13 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-09 12:17 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-11 15:11 ` David Singleton
2006-09-11 17:14 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-11 18:58 ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-30 4:52 ` David Singleton
2006-08-30 5:52 ` Matthew Locke
2006-08-30 13:39 ` Preece Scott-PREECE
2006-08-30 22:43 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-27 19:48 ` Greg KH
2006-08-28 0:07 ` David Singleton
2006-08-27 20:54 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2006-08-28 22:18 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-29 21:46 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2006-08-29 1:29 ` David Singleton
2006-08-29 22:39 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2006-08-31 13:27 ` Amit Kucheria
2006-08-31 19:22 ` Preece Scott-PREECE
2006-09-01 8:11 ` Amit Kucheria
2006-08-14 23:29 ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-08-14 23:48 ` Matthew Locke
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