From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Vitaly Wool <vitalywool@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-pm@lists.osdl.org,
Matthew Locke <matthew.a.locke@comcast.net>,
Preece Scott-PREECE <scott.preece@motorola.com>
Subject: Re: community PM requirements/issues and PowerOP [Was: Re: So, what's the status on the recent patches here?]
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:03:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060914130311.GA2224@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <acd2a5930609140515j5c57583cm43615b6f48a265aa@mail.gmail.com>
> Pavel,
> > > operating points it is possible to implement the "cpufreq frequency
> > > selection logic" in user space and having such functionality in the kernel
> > > just violates the main rule of having everything possible outside of the
> > > kernel.
> >
> > You got the rules wrong. "Keep the code out of kernel" is important
> > rule, but probably not the main one.
>
> from aside, it looks like you're choosing 'rules' and assign then
> 'priorities' in a too arbitrary way which is by a strange accident
> fits your point of view best of all.
> May I remind you that Linux world is not only laptops and Sharp Zaurus? ;)
Actually, laptops and zauruses seem to be the only "interesting"
machines from pm perspective. Then there are Motorola cellphones, but
Motorola tried hard not to enable users changing kernel... so they are
irrelevant.
Pavel
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2006-09-11 7:57 community PM requirements/issues and PowerOP [Was: Re: So, what's the status on the recent patches here?] Eugeny S. Mints
2006-09-11 8:20 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-11 9:47 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2006-09-11 19:36 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-11 19:53 ` Matthew Locke
2006-09-11 20:06 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-11 20:09 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-11 20:33 ` Matthew Locke
2006-09-11 21:06 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-11 21:50 ` Matthew Locke
2006-09-11 22:50 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-12 3:31 ` Greg KH
2006-09-12 8:26 ` Matthew Locke
2006-09-13 4:22 ` David Brownell
2006-09-11 20:25 ` Matthew Locke
2006-09-11 21:02 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-12 3:26 ` Greg KH
2006-09-11 22:00 ` Mark Gross
2006-09-11 22:08 ` Matthew Locke
2006-09-11 20:24 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2006-09-11 20:34 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-13 4:54 ` David Brownell
2006-09-13 11:39 ` Preece Scott-PREECE
2006-09-14 9:12 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-14 9:16 ` Vitaly Wool
2006-09-14 9:20 ` Matthew Locke
2006-09-14 10:05 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2006-09-14 10:17 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-14 10:47 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2006-09-14 12:15 ` Vitaly Wool
2006-09-14 13:03 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-09-14 13:04 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-14 13:15 ` Vitaly Wool
2006-09-14 13:20 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-14 13:26 ` Vitaly Wool
2006-09-14 14:59 ` David Brownell
2006-09-17 10:53 ` Amit Kucheria
2006-09-17 13:18 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-17 13:28 ` Amit Kucheria
2006-09-17 13:40 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-17 14:14 ` Amit Kucheria
2006-09-17 18:25 ` community PM requirements/issues and PowerOP[Was: " Preece Scott-PREECE
2006-09-18 9:02 ` community PM requirements/issues and PowerOP [Was: " Pavel Machek
2006-09-14 14:56 ` David Brownell
2006-09-17 12:34 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-17 13:06 ` Vitaly Wool
2006-09-18 10:46 ` Amit Kucheria
2006-09-18 10:53 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-18 12:01 ` Igor Stoppa
2006-09-18 12:11 ` nokia 770 [was Re: community PM requirements/issues and PowerOP [Was: Re: So, what's the status on the recent patches here?]] Pavel Machek
2006-09-18 12:42 ` Amit Kucheria
2006-09-19 18:25 ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-12 20:00 ` nokia 770 [was Re: community PM requirements/issues and PowerOP] David Brownell
2006-12-13 12:12 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2006-12-13 21:03 ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-13 21:32 ` David Brownell
2006-12-13 21:44 ` Matthew Locke
2006-12-13 21:53 ` Dave Jones
2006-12-13 22:50 ` Matthew Locke
2006-12-13 22:58 ` Dave Jones
2006-12-14 10:14 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2006-12-14 12:12 ` Dave Jones
2006-12-14 13:01 ` Vitaly Wool
2006-12-14 13:17 ` Dave Jones
2006-12-14 14:56 ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-14 15:22 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2006-12-13 22:55 ` nokia 770 [was Re: community PM requirements...] David Brownell
2006-12-13 21:56 ` nokia 770 [was Re: community PM requirements/issues and PowerOP] Eugeny S. Mints
2006-12-13 21:58 ` Pavel Machek
2006-12-13 22:27 ` nokia 770 [was Re: community PM requirements...] David Brownell
2006-12-13 21:27 ` nokia 770 [was Re: community PM requirements/issues and PowerOP] Matthew Locke
2006-09-14 19:25 ` community PM requirements/issues and PowerOP [Was: Re: So, what's the status on the recent patches here?] Jon Loeliger
2006-09-17 12:46 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-17 17:32 ` Preece Scott-PREECE
2006-09-19 18:20 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-19 19:11 ` Preece Scott-PREECE
2006-09-23 23:39 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-14 12:12 ` Vitaly Wool
2006-09-14 12:35 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2006-09-14 9:32 ` PowerOP on lkml or linux-pm? Matthew Locke
2006-09-14 9:45 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-14 9:58 ` Matthew Locke
2006-09-14 9:47 ` community PM requirements/issues and PowerOP [Was: Re: So, what's the status on the recent patches here?] Matthew Locke
2006-09-11 19:30 ` Matthew Locke
2006-09-11 19:55 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-11 20:53 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2006-09-11 21:00 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-11 21:36 ` Preece Scott-PREECE
2006-09-11 21:39 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-11 22:41 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2006-09-11 23:05 ` cpufreq user<->kernel interface removal [was Re: community PM requirements/issues and PowerOP] Pavel Machek
2006-09-11 23:50 ` Mark Gross
2006-09-12 3:35 ` Greg KH
2006-09-12 8:41 ` Matthew Locke
2006-09-12 17:03 ` Jon Loeliger
2006-09-14 16:26 ` Mark Gross
2006-09-17 12:37 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-17 13:10 ` Vitaly Wool
2006-09-17 13:20 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-11 22:05 ` community PM requirements/issues and PowerOP [Was: Re: So, what's the status on the recent patches here?] Eugeny S. Mints
2006-09-11 22:56 ` cpufreq terminally broken [was Re: community PM requirements/issues and PowerOP] Pavel Machek
2006-09-12 0:17 ` Mark Gross
2006-09-12 3:37 ` Greg KH
2006-09-13 23:50 ` [linux-pm] " David Singleton
2006-09-14 5:30 ` Vitaly Wool
2006-09-14 5:55 ` OpPoint summary Greg KH
2006-09-14 7:35 ` Vitaly Wool
2006-09-14 16:55 ` David Singleton
2006-09-14 17:03 ` David Singleton
2006-09-14 17:07 ` David Singleton
2006-09-14 17:25 ` Auke Kok
2006-09-14 18:15 ` [linux-pm] " Vitaly Wool
2006-09-14 18:17 ` David Singleton
2006-09-17 17:48 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-18 14:33 ` [linux-pm] " Richard A. Griffiths
2006-09-18 16:13 ` Matthew Locke
2006-09-14 17:11 ` David Singleton
2006-09-17 5:07 ` David Singleton
2006-09-17 12:56 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-17 12:58 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-17 22:43 ` [linux-pm] " Matthew Locke
2007-02-27 20:55 ` cpufreq terminally broken [was Re: community PM requirements/issues and PowerOP] David Brownell
2007-02-27 22:41 ` Matthew Locke
2006-09-12 8:33 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-12 9:10 ` Vitaly Wool
2006-09-12 9:16 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-12 9:23 ` [linux-pm] " Vitaly Wool
2006-09-14 15:04 ` Mark Gross
2006-09-14 14:58 ` Mark Gross
2006-10-05 3:30 ` community PM requirements/issues and PowerOP [Was: Re: So, what's the status on the recent patches here?] Dominik Brodowski
2006-09-11 21:53 ` Mark Gross
2006-09-11 22:43 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-12 0:00 ` Mark Gross
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-09-15 3:00 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-17 12:41 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-15 3:05 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-15 3:16 Scott E. Preece
2006-09-17 12:48 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-25 12:43 Scott E. Preece
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