From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Pavel Machek Subject: Re: community PM requirements/issues and PowerOP [Was: Re: So, what's the status on the recent patches here?] Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:04:36 +0200 Message-ID: <20060914130436.GA2244@elf.ucw.cz> References: <20060913045405.BA7DD1A0084@adsl-69-226-248-13.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net> <20060914091211.GA14874@elf.ucw.cz> <45092968.7070508@gmail.com> <20060914101704.GA17820@elf.ucw.cz> <20060914130311.GA2224@elf.ucw.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060914130311.GA2224@elf.ucw.cz> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: linux-pm-bounces@lists.osdl.org Errors-To: linux-pm-bounces@lists.osdl.org To: Vitaly Wool Cc: linux-pm@lists.osdl.org, Matthew Locke , Preece Scott-PREECE List-Id: linux-pm@vger.kernel.org On Thu 2006-09-14 15:03:11, Pavel Machek wrote: > = > > Pavel, > = > > > > operating points it is possible to implement the "cpufreq frequency > > > > selection logic" in user space and having such functionality in the= kernel > > > > just violates the main rule of having everything possible outside o= f the > > > > kernel. > > > > > > You got the rules wrong. "Keep the code out of kernel" is important > > > rule, but probably not the main one. > > = > > from aside, it looks like you're choosing 'rules' and assign then > > 'priorities' in a too arbitrary way which is by a strange accident > > fits your point of view best of all. > > May I remind you that Linux world is not only laptops and Sharp Zaurus?= ;) > = > Actually, laptops and zauruses seem to be the only "interesting" > machines from pm perspective. Then there are Motorola cellphones, but > Motorola tried hard not to enable users changing kernel... so they are > irrelevant. Make that "mostly irrelevant"... as community will find a way to flash them, eventually. Still 2.6-based machine with more advanced power management would be nice. AFAICT zaurus are best machines today... Pavel -- = (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blo= g.html