From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Pavel Machek Subject: Re: community PM requirements/issues and PowerOP [Was: Re: So, what's the status on the recent patches here?] Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 14:41:39 +0200 Message-ID: <20060917124139.GA2812@elf.ucw.cz> References: <200609150300.k8F30dXt028656@olwen.urbana.css.mot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200609150300.k8F30dXt028656@olwen.urbana.css.mot.com> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: linux-pm-bounces@lists.osdl.org Errors-To: linux-pm-bounces@lists.osdl.org Cc: linux-pm@lists.osdl.org, matthew.a.locke@comcast.net, scott.preece@motorola.com List-Id: linux-pm@vger.kernel.org Hi! > | > > You got the rules wrong. "Keep the code out of kernel" is important > | > > rule, but probably not the main one. > | > = > | > from aside, it looks like you're choosing 'rules' and assign then > | > 'priorities' in a too arbitrary way which is by a strange accident > | > fits your point of view best of all. > | > May I remind you that Linux world is not only laptops and Sharp Zauru= s? ;) > | = > | Actually, laptops and zauruses seem to be the only "interesting" > | machines from pm perspective. Then there are Motorola cellphones, but > | Motorola tried hard not to enable users changing kernel... so they are > | irrelevant. > = > It would be interesting to see a breakdown by numbers as to where most > copies of Linux are. If embedded devices aren't the leader now, they > will be soon. "Relevant" devices are those where the end-users can change the kernel. Because that's where the developers are and this area desperately needs more developers. Of course, *most* copies are eventually going to end up in linux-based smartcards. But as those are not going to be hackable, so they are irrelevant. Pavel -- = (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blo= g.html