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From: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Jun'ichi Nomura <j-nomura@ce.jp.nec.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@mellanox.co.il>,
	Martin Lorenz <martin@lorenz.eu.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	len.brown@intel.com, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@osdl.org, "Randy.Dunlap" <rdunlap@xenotime.net>
Subject: Re: 2.6.19-rc3: known unfixed regressions (v3)
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:35:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061030183522.GL27968@stusta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610300953150.25218@g5.osdl.org>

On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 10:16:34AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>...
> I assume that "compile the kernel" just triggers some magic ACPI event 
> (probably fan-related due to heat), and I wonder if the bisection faked 
> you out because once you get "close enough" the differences are small 
> enough that the kernel compile is quick and the heat event doesn't 
> actually trigger?
> 
> See what I'm saying? Maybe the act of bisecting itself changed the 
> results, and then when you just revert the patch, you end up in the same 
> situation: you only recompile a small part (you only recompile that 
> particular file), and the problem doesn't occur, so you'd think that the 
> revert "fixed" it.
> 
> If it's heat-related, it should probably trigger by anything that does a 
> lot of CPU (and perhaps disk) accesses, not just kernel builds. It might 
> be good to try to find another test-case for it than a kernel recompile, 
> one that doesn't depend on how much changed in the kernel..

Martin's original bug report stated "now I loose ACPI events after 
suspend/resume. not every time, but roughly 3 out of 4 times."
This seems to support your theory.

But considering that two people have independently reported this as a 
2.6.19-rc regression for similar hardware (Michael for a T60 and Martin 
for an X60), a problem in the kernel seems to be involved.

Martin, Michael, can you send complete "dmesg -s 1000000" for both 
2.6.18.1 and a non-working 2.6.19-rc kernel after resume?
I don't have high hopes, but perhaps looking at the dmesg and/or 
diff'ing them might give a hint.

> 		Linus

cu
Adrian

-- 

       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed


  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-30 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20061029231358.GI27968@stusta.de>
2006-10-30 13:56 ` 2.6.19-rc3: known unfixed regressions (v3) Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-30 15:27   ` Martin Lorenz
2006-10-30 16:17   ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2006-10-30 16:32     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-30 17:20       ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2006-10-30 17:54         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-30 16:44     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-30 17:34       ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2006-10-30 18:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-30 18:35           ` Adrian Bunk [this message]
2006-10-30 19:00             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-30 19:06             ` Hugh Dickins
2006-10-31 12:47             ` Martin Lorenz
2006-10-30 18:58           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-31 21:15           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-11-01  3:01   ` 2.6.19-rc <-> ThinkPads Adrian Bunk
2006-11-01  3:15     ` Len Brown
2006-11-01  5:11       ` Ernst Herzberg
2006-11-01  5:26         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-01  5:54           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-11-01  6:16             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-01 17:25               ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-01 18:12                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-11-01 18:25                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-01 19:33                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-11-01 19:44                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-01 19:34                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-01 19:52                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-01 21:15                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-01 22:35               ` Bill Davidsen
2006-11-01  6:18             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-11-01  9:33               ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-01 12:02                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-11-01 17:17               ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-01 13:50           ` Stefan Seyfried
2006-11-01 16:36     ` Hugh Dickins
2006-11-04  3:49     ` 2.6.19-rc <-> ThinkPads, summary Adrian Bunk
2006-11-04 13:51       ` Hugh Dickins
2006-11-04 14:04       ` Russell King
2006-11-05  6:23         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-17  1:53       ` 2.6.19-rc <-> ThinkPads, (related Ubuntu bug report) Mark Stosberg

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