From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" Subject: Re: NAK new drivers without proper power management? Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 23:44:14 +0100 Message-ID: <200702092344.14984.rjw@sisk.pl> References: <1171058269.1484.64.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> <1171059433.8675.195.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1171059968.1484.90.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: In-Reply-To: <1171059968.1484.90.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: linux-pm-bounces@lists.osdl.org Errors-To: linux-pm-bounces@lists.osdl.org To: nigel@nigel.suspend2.net Cc: pm list , LKML , Arjan van de Ven List-Id: linux-pm@vger.kernel.org On Friday, 9 February 2007 23:26, Nigel Cunningham wrote: > Hi. > = > On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 23:17 +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-02-10 at 08:57 +1100, Nigel Cunningham wrote: > > > Hi. > > > = > > > I don't think this is already done (feel free to correct me if I'm > > > wrong).. > > > = > > > Can we start to NAK new drivers that don't have proper power manageme= nt > > > implemented? There really is no excuse for writing a new driver and n= ot > > > putting .suspend and .resume methods in anymore, is there? > > = > > = > > to a large degree, a device driver that doesn't suspend is better than > > no device driver at all, right? > = > I'm not sure it is. It only makes more work for everyone else: We have > to help people figure out what causes their computer to fail to resume > (which can take quite a while), then get them them complain to driver > author, and the driver author has to submit patches to fix it. > = > All of this is avoided if they'll just do it right in the first place. > = > > now.. if you want to make the core warn about it, that's very fair > = > That's probably a good idea too, since I'm only suggesting this for new > drivers. I think if CONFIG_PM_DEBUG is set, the core should warn about drivers not having .suspend or .resume routines. Greetings, Rafael -- = If you don't have the time to read, you don't have the time or the tools to write. - Stephen King