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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: "Scott E. Preece" <preece@motorola.com>
Cc: linux-pm@lists.osdl.org, linux@dominikbrodowski.net, pavel@ucw.cz
Subject: Re: Alternative Concept
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:23:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200703141623.16643.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200703142208.l2EM8uoV007606@olwen.urbana.css.mot.com>

On Wednesday 14 March 2007 3:08 pm, Scott E. Preece wrote:
> | > 
> | > But shouldn't it be useful on every platform? ..
> | 
> | I couldn't know.  This "alternative concept" hasn't gotten very far
> | into the hand-waving stage, much less beyond it into proposed interface
> | or (gasp!) implementations.  Platforms that don't *have* those particular
> | interdependencies should not of course incur costs to implement them...
> ---
> 
> Well, that's fine if the platform you use is the current design
> center.

So you think that platforms which don't have such interdependencies
should incur costs and complexity to address problems they don't have.
Why?


> For the rest of us, though, all the stuff you're currently 
> doing for power management is wasted effort and why should we incur
> costs to work around them? 

Me personally?  What specifically are you referring to, and
in what respects would that be "wasted" effort?


> Today, we just configure it all out and put 
> in our own stuff. We would prefer to have a mainstream framework that
> could be used to meet both Intel laptop needs and embedded device needs...

I don't think I ever said anything against that notion of having PM
infrastructure capable of handling both PC and embedded configs.  Not
that I've seen a framework that handles either one well -- yet! -- so
such notions haven't yet progressed to being testable theories.

Against the notion of infrastructure (PM or otherwise) that's not
well designed or defined -- certainly I've argued.  That includes
much current PM infrastructure, and most recent proposals.

- Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-14 23:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-14 22:08 Alternative Concept Scott E. Preece
2007-03-14 23:23 ` David Brownell [this message]
2007-03-15  7:25   ` Ikhwan Lee
2007-03-15  8:14     ` Amit Kucheria
2007-03-15 10:55       ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-15 10:46     ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-15 10:33   ` Eugeny S. Mints
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-03-19 14:12 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-20  7:56 ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 14:26   ` Amit Kucheria
2007-03-20 15:08     ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 17:04       ` David Brownell
2007-03-15 14:00 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-15 14:38 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-15 17:33 ` Woodruff, Richard
2007-03-15 13:29 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-15 23:07 ` David Brownell
2007-03-15 13:21 Scott E. Preece
2006-08-24  1:23 [RFC] CPUFreq PowerOP integration, Intro 0/3 Eugeny S. Mints
2006-10-07  2:36 ` Alternative Concept [Was: Re: [RFC] CPUFreq PowerOP integration, Intro 0/3] Dominik Brodowski
2007-03-13  0:57   ` Alternative Concept Matthew Locke
2007-03-13 11:08     ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-13 20:34       ` Mark Gross
2007-03-14  2:30         ` Ikhwan Lee
2007-03-14 10:43           ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-14 17:19             ` David Brownell
2007-03-14 18:12               ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-14 18:45                 ` David Brownell
2007-03-15  9:53               ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-15 13:04                 ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-16  2:21                   ` David Brownell
2007-03-16  3:56                     ` Ikhwan Lee
2007-03-16  6:17                       ` David Brownell
2007-03-19  2:27                         ` Ikhwan Lee
2007-03-19  6:07                           ` David Brownell
2007-03-16 13:06                     ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-16 18:03                       ` David Brownell
2007-03-18 20:25                         ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-19  4:04                           ` David Brownell
2007-03-20  0:03                             ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20  8:07                               ` David Brownell
2007-03-20  9:45                                 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 10:30                                   ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-20 12:13                                     ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-20 12:39                                       ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-20 13:44                                         ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 21:03                                         ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 13:07                                     ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 13:52                                       ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-20 14:58                                         ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 15:36                                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 19:16                                             ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 20:45                                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 22:04                                                 ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 22:06                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 23:29                                                     ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 15:36                                           ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-20 19:17                                             ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 20:17                                             ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 20:21                                       ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 19:58                                   ` David Brownell
2007-03-14  3:19       ` Dominik Brodowski

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