From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@nokia.com>
Cc: Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>,
linux-pm@lists.osdl.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: Alternative Concept
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:17:45 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200703201317.46550.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1174405005.25744.108.camel@Dogbert.NOE.nokia.com>
On Tuesday 20 March 2007 8:36 am, Igor Stoppa wrote:
> Your approach is to just label policy what you want to kick out of the
> driver =) Nice one!
I had a similar reaction ... although, I was also wondering exactly
what benefit would come from kicking that stuff out of drivers, and
thus needing to rewrite/retest a lot of them.
> > Ok, seems you are happy with current clock framework and advocating it
> > to be as is.
>
> As I wrote several times i haven't seen yet a reason to replace it;
> certainly there is space for improvement but so far this proposal has
> not been on the lines of: how to improve the clk fw
Yes. This thread is unfortunately very much a "where's the beef".
I was afraid that was what would happen, given the complete lack
of interface proposal.
I suspect that until some non-troll content is provided, I'll tune out.
> > Are you against addition some features to it, such as enable/disable
> > "turn the unused clock off" rule,
That'd be what we call a "misfeature", or "bug". Are you suggesting
this be done to the IRQ subsystem too? It has a rule that unused
IRQs must be turned off. Likewise that IRQs not used as wake events
shouldn't be enabled as wake events. I hope you're not restricting
your addition of misfeatures to just the clock framework!
> > Besides that it is meaningless for you, do you have any technical
> > objections for that?
>
> Do you mean apart from the fact that it means hijacking the fw?
> Noooo, not at all.
I take it that was meant to be sarcasm...
Me, yes I have already presented technical objections, all of which
appear to have been ignored.
> But why is it meaningful to you? Why can't you interact with the entity
> that is actually controlling a certain clock, rather than with the clock
> itself?
Good question. I hope that one doesn't get ignored, too.
- Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-20 20:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-24 1:23 [RFC] CPUFreq PowerOP integration, Intro 0/3 Eugeny S. Mints
2006-10-07 2:36 ` Alternative Concept [Was: Re: [RFC] CPUFreq PowerOP integration, Intro 0/3] Dominik Brodowski
2006-10-07 3:15 ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-10-08 7:16 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-12 15:38 ` Mark Gross
2006-10-12 16:02 ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-10-16 21:56 ` Mark Gross
2006-10-17 21:40 ` Matthew Locke
2006-10-12 16:48 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-12 17:12 ` Vitaly Wool
2006-10-12 17:23 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-09 18:21 ` Mark Gross
2006-10-26 3:06 ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-10-12 22:43 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2006-10-13 10:55 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-16 21:44 ` Mark Gross
2006-10-17 8:26 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-26 3:05 ` Dominik Brodowski
2007-03-13 0:57 ` Alternative Concept Matthew Locke
2007-03-13 11:08 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-13 20:34 ` Mark Gross
2007-03-14 2:30 ` Ikhwan Lee
2007-03-14 10:43 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-14 17:19 ` David Brownell
2007-03-14 18:12 ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-14 18:45 ` David Brownell
2007-03-15 9:53 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-15 13:04 ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-16 2:21 ` David Brownell
2007-03-16 3:56 ` Ikhwan Lee
2007-03-16 6:17 ` David Brownell
2007-03-19 2:27 ` Ikhwan Lee
2007-03-19 6:07 ` David Brownell
2007-03-16 13:06 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-16 18:03 ` David Brownell
2007-03-18 20:25 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-19 4:04 ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 0:03 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 8:07 ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 9:45 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 10:30 ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-20 12:13 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-20 12:39 ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-20 13:44 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 21:03 ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 13:07 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 13:52 ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-20 14:58 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 15:36 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 19:16 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 20:45 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 22:04 ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 22:06 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 23:29 ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 15:36 ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-20 19:17 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 20:17 ` David Brownell [this message]
2007-03-20 20:21 ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 19:58 ` David Brownell
2007-03-24 0:47 ` charging batteries from USB [was: Re: Alternative Concept] Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-24 1:17 ` David Brownell
2007-03-24 1:48 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-24 2:35 ` David Brownell
2007-03-24 10:20 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-24 8:36 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-14 3:19 ` Alternative Concept Dominik Brodowski
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-03-14 22:08 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-14 23:23 ` David Brownell
2007-03-15 7:25 ` Ikhwan Lee
2007-03-15 8:14 ` Amit Kucheria
2007-03-15 10:55 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-15 10:46 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-15 10:33 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-15 13:21 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-15 13:29 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-15 23:07 ` David Brownell
2007-03-15 14:00 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-15 14:38 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-15 17:33 ` Woodruff, Richard
2007-03-19 14:12 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-20 7:56 ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 14:26 ` Amit Kucheria
2007-03-20 15:08 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 17:04 ` David Brownell
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