From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Scott E. Preece" <preece@motorola.com>
Cc: linux-pm@lists.osdl.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] dynamic device power management proposal
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:45:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070321214515.GC6057@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200703212019.l2LKJdbj029831@olwen.urbana.css.mot.com>
Hi!
> | > > No, that's not how it works; look at hda_audio, it already has
> | > > powersave. Just power down audio card 5 seconds after its control file
> | > > is closed.
> | > It's another case of doing policy in a driver.
> | >
> |
> | IMHO, this kind of policy is best handled inside the driver because it
> | is specific to the hardware. This will ensure that the driver will
> | just work on every distro without some userspace policy being present
> | and setup _correctly_.
> ---
>
> On an embedded device, the knowledge of when it makes sense to keep a
> disk spinning, to avoid latency when it's needed next, versus when it
> makes sense to spin it down to save power, probably fits better in user
> space than in the kernel. In such a case there's likely to be a "master"
> application (in our case, for instance, "the phone application") that
> owns a lot of knowledge about whole-system state and user interactions.
> Not, of course, that we have a disk to spin down.
Agreed. Please use existing interfaces. Patch to spin disk down and
keep it down is available... but hdparm -y is enough for you.
> On the other hand, we also have devices that do their own power saving,
> largely in cases where they don't have latency issues large enough to
> worry about.
Yep.
And we do not need great new handwavy framework for
this... please. Just add support for platform you care about.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-21 21:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-21 20:19 [RFC] dynamic device power management proposal Scott E. Preece
2007-03-21 21:45 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2007-03-26 13:53 ` Amit Kucheria
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2007-03-22 19:18 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-22 19:05 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-27 12:05 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-27 12:19 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-22 13:39 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-22 13:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-22 14:01 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 14:45 ` Alan Stern
2007-03-22 18:53 ` David Brownell
2007-03-19 9:08 Shaohua Li
2007-03-19 15:44 ` Alan Stern
2007-03-20 1:06 ` Shaohua Li
2007-03-20 14:58 ` Alan Stern
2007-03-21 1:43 ` Shaohua Li
2007-03-21 14:44 ` Alan Stern
2007-03-22 4:42 ` Len Brown
2007-03-22 11:56 ` Jim Gettys
2007-03-22 19:28 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 13:20 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 13:44 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-22 13:56 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 14:18 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-22 14:22 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 14:26 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-22 14:35 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 19:41 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 19:58 ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 18:30 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-21 1:34 ` Shaohua Li
2007-03-21 15:21 ` Amit Kucheria
2007-03-21 21:49 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-21 22:54 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-21 21:39 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 3:09 ` Shaohua Li
2007-03-22 13:13 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 19:20 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 20:32 ` Alan Stern
2007-03-22 20:02 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 22:10 ` Greg KH
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