From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: Alexey Starikovskiy <alexey.y.starikovskiy@intel.com>,
Ben Dooks <ben@simtec.co.uk>,
Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>,
Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] implement pm_ops.valid for everybody
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:13:04 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200703221113.05518.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1174583912.3588.25.camel@johannes.berg>
On Thursday 22 March 2007 10:18 am, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 10:10 -0700, David Brownell wrote:
>
> > especially the way suspend() methods
> > have no way to determine the semantics of the target state.
>
> I can't parse that.
Look at docs for most any SOC processor and you'll see that
not only does it have a variety of lowpower states, but that
each of them has various rules about what works there and
what doesn't.
So long as driver suspend() methods have no some way to see
how far they "must" shut down for a given target sleep state,
there is only limited utility to defining such states.
That's because the state would only really apply to the cpu
specific code ... drivers must assume the worst case, precluding
the primary reasons to use those less-deep system states.
I just reposted my clk_must_disable() patches; I think it's time
to merge them. They address that issue for one of the most
common type of rule for system sleep states ... at least, in
terms of interface. Platform support will still be an issue,
but at least the issue won't be "crippled by bad design".
- Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-22 18:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2007-03-20 1:58 ` [PATCH] rework pm_ops pm_disk_modes foo Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 8:46 ` [PATCH v2] " Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 9:31 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 9:36 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 9:43 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 9:46 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 10:17 ` [PATCH] add firmware disk state and clean up Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 10:25 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 10:45 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 11:02 ` [PATCH] remove firmware disk mode Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 13:15 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 11:06 ` [PATCH] implement pm_ops.valid for everybody Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 13:16 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 23:44 ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 22:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-21 21:01 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-21 22:07 ` David Brownell
2007-03-21 22:36 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-21 22:57 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-21 23:25 ` David Brownell
2007-03-21 23:31 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 10:03 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-22 17:10 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 17:18 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-22 18:13 ` David Brownell [this message]
2007-03-22 18:18 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-21 23:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-20 22:59 ` [PATCH] add firmware disk state and clean up David Brownell
2007-03-20 22:09 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 23:31 ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 11:48 ` [PATCH] rework pm_ops pm_disk_modes foo Johannes Berg
2007-03-22 13:44 [PATCH] implement pm_ops.valid for everybody Scott E. Preece
2007-03-22 18:29 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 19:26 ` Tony Lindgren
2007-03-22 21:16 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 13:15 ` tony
2007-03-23 18:25 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 21:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-22 21:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-22 21:43 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 21:56 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-22 22:42 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 22:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-22 22:56 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 23:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-22 23:55 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 1:14 ` Matthew Locke
2007-03-23 13:17 ` tony
2007-03-23 13:35 ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-23 14:52 ` tony
2007-03-23 15:17 ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-23 18:51 ` Matthew Locke
2007-03-23 19:19 ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-23 18:29 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 19:21 ` Matthew Locke
2007-03-23 20:11 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 6:46 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-23 16:15 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 21:08 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-24 0:52 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 13:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-23 17:57 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 20:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-24 0:01 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-24 0:54 ` David Brownell
2007-03-24 20:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-24 0:41 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-24 20:49 ` David Brownell
2007-03-24 21:01 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-25 1:02 ` David Brownell
2007-03-24 21:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-24 22:19 ` David Brownell
2007-03-25 10:26 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-25 15:20 ` David Brownell
2007-03-25 16:23 ` Jim Gettys
2007-03-25 16:55 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 18:18 ` Matthew Locke
2007-03-24 3:08 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-03-24 20:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-22 23:29 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-22 23:44 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 23:45 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-22 21:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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