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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org
Cc: linux-pm <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] dynamic device power management proposal
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:41:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200703221241.20166.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200703220042.20471.lenb@kernel.org>

On Wednesday 21 March 2007 9:42 pm, Len Brown wrote:

> > >      2. The device dependence varies from different systems especially
> > >         for embedded system. The idea is dpm framework handles device
> > >         dependence (like, resume a device’s parent before resume the
> > >         device itself),

The driver model PM framework **ALREADY DOES THAT** so nothing new
is required ...


> I'm skeptical about an additional framework in the kernel to track
> dependencies,

The clock framework and driver model tree already handle a big chunk
of those dependencies.  Of course, they're also not an "additional"
framework (except maybe from the x86 perspective, where the clock
framework isn't available).


> as I don't think we should even try to track embedded system 
> dependencies in the kernel.

That approach seems unlikely to work, unless one wants to make it
even harder to use Linux on embedded systems.  On the other hand,
I'd hate to see a "dependency tracking API" rather than something
focussed on solving specific problems.  (Solve first, then maybe
generalize later.)


> This is the "intelligent device driver" model -- the driver actually has a clue
> and can do the work internally.  Probably we need some combination of this
> plus the simple timeout/user-policy-manager for dumber drivers if we are to
> cover the whole system.

Yes, those two approaches should cover large chunks of the driver space.

- Dave

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-03-22 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-19  9:08 [RFC] dynamic device power management proposal Shaohua Li
2007-03-19 15:44 ` Alan Stern
2007-03-20  1:06   ` Shaohua Li
2007-03-20 14:58     ` Alan Stern
2007-03-21  1:43       ` Shaohua Li
2007-03-21 14:44         ` Alan Stern
2007-03-22  4:42   ` Len Brown
2007-03-22 11:56     ` Jim Gettys
2007-03-22 19:28       ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 13:20     ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 13:44       ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-22 13:56         ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 14:18           ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-22 14:22             ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 14:26               ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-22 14:35                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 19:41     ` David Brownell [this message]
2007-03-22 19:58   ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 18:30 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-21  1:34   ` Shaohua Li
2007-03-21 15:21     ` Amit Kucheria
2007-03-21 21:49       ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-21 22:54         ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-21 21:39     ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22  3:09       ` Shaohua Li
2007-03-22 13:13         ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 19:20       ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 20:32         ` Alan Stern
2007-03-22 20:02 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 22:10   ` Greg KH
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-03-21 20:19 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-21 21:45 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-26 13:53 ` Amit Kucheria
2007-03-22 13:39 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-22 13:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-22 14:01 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 14:45 ` Alan Stern
2007-03-22 18:53   ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 19:05 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-27 12:05 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-27 12:19   ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-22 19:18 Scott E. Preece

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