From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: alexey.y.starikovskiy@intel.com, dirk.behme@de.bosch.com,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, johannes@sipsolutions.net,
nico@cam.org, ben@simtec.co.uk, g.liakhovetski@gmx.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] implement pm_ops.valid for everybody
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 21:01:18 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200703242101.20349.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070324000147.GC14427@elf.ucw.cz>
On Saturday, 24 March 2007 01:01, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> (I do not want to get into this flamewar).
I'd rather call it a misunderstanding.
> > > That's a false choice, when you "mean" anything more than
> > > fairly broad behavioral expectations: STR saves more power
> > > than "standby", and transitions to/from STR take more
> > > time than to/from "standby".
> >
> > So be it.
> >
> > Assume that the user does 'echo standby > /sys/power/state'. I think he can
> > expect that in such a case we'll freeze tasks and put devices into low-power
> > states and when he wakes up the system (BTW, I think the method of waking
> > up can be treated as a differentiating factor) he should be able to continue
> > from where he stopped after a little time. Fine.
> >
> > Now, we have to make that happen. After we have frozen tasks, we need to
> > call something like device_suspend(some_argument) where the argument should
> > tell drivers what to do. Say we use something like PMSG_STANDBY and now
>
> We would add another field to that struct, distingushing "mem" and
> "standby". And meaning for the drivers would be "try to save a lot of
> power, but keep the latency low" for standby, vs. "save as much power
> as possible" for mem.
Well, I think we can add more PMSG_* constants just fine. Still, for a driver,
the meaning of PMSG_WHATEVER should be clear.
I agree that whatever is done in pm_ops->enter(some_state) has to depend on
the platform for quite obvious reasons, but the PMSG_* have some meaning
beyond the platform-specific code.
Greetings,
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-24 20:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-22 13:44 [PATCH] implement pm_ops.valid for everybody Scott E. Preece
2007-03-22 18:29 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 19:26 ` Tony Lindgren
2007-03-22 21:16 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 13:15 ` tony
2007-03-23 18:25 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 21:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-22 21:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-22 21:43 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 21:56 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-22 22:42 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 22:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-22 22:56 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 23:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-22 23:55 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 1:14 ` Matthew Locke
2007-03-23 13:17 ` tony
2007-03-23 13:35 ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-23 14:52 ` tony
2007-03-23 15:17 ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-23 18:51 ` Matthew Locke
2007-03-23 19:19 ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-23 18:29 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 19:21 ` Matthew Locke
2007-03-23 20:11 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 6:46 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-23 16:15 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 21:08 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-24 0:52 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 13:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-23 17:57 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 20:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-24 0:01 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-24 0:54 ` David Brownell
2007-03-24 20:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2007-03-24 0:41 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-24 20:49 ` David Brownell
2007-03-24 21:01 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-25 1:02 ` David Brownell
2007-03-24 21:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-24 22:19 ` David Brownell
2007-03-25 10:26 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-25 15:20 ` David Brownell
2007-03-25 16:23 ` Jim Gettys
2007-03-25 16:55 ` David Brownell
2007-03-23 18:18 ` Matthew Locke
2007-03-24 3:08 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-03-24 20:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-03-22 23:29 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-22 23:44 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 23:45 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-22 21:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-03-20 1:58 [PATCH] rework pm_ops pm_disk_modes foo Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 8:46 ` [PATCH v2] " Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 9:31 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 9:36 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 9:43 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 10:17 ` [PATCH] add firmware disk state and clean up Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 10:25 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 11:06 ` [PATCH] implement pm_ops.valid for everybody Johannes Berg
2007-03-20 13:16 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 23:44 ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 22:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-21 21:01 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-21 22:07 ` David Brownell
2007-03-21 22:36 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-03-21 22:57 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-21 23:25 ` David Brownell
2007-03-21 23:31 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-22 10:03 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-22 17:10 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 17:18 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-22 18:13 ` David Brownell
2007-03-22 18:18 ` Johannes Berg
2007-03-21 23:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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