From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Nigel Cunningham <nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
suspend2-devel@lists.suspend2.net,
linux-pm <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: suspend2 merge (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:40:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200704262040.31760.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1177605074.6814.93.camel@johannes.berg>
On Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:31, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 13:30 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
>
> > > From looking at pm_ops which I was recently working with a lot, it seems
> > > that it was designed by somebody who was reading the ACPI documentation
> > > and was otherwise pretty clueless, even at that level std tries to look
> > > like suspend. IMHO that is one of the first things that should be ripped
> > > out, no pm_ops for STD, it's a pain to work with.
> >
> > That code goes back to Patrick, AFAICT. (And yes, ACPI S3 and ACPI S4
> > low-level enter is pretty similar).
> >
> > Patches would be welcome
>
> That was easier than I thought. This applies on top of a patch that
> makes kernel/power/user.c optional since I had no idea how to fix it,
> problems I see:
> * it surfaces kernel implementation details about pm_ops and thus makes
> the whole thing very fragile
Can you elaborate?
> * it has yet another interface (yuck) to determine whether to reboot,
> shut down etc, doesn't use /sys/power/disk
Yes. In fact it was meant as a replacement for /sys/power/disk at one point.
> * I generally had no idea wtf it is doing in some places
I could have told you if you had asked. :-)
> Anyway, this patch is only compile tested, it
> * introduces include/linux/hibernate.h with hibernate_ops and
> a new hibernate() function to hibernate the system
Do we need hibernate_ops at all? There's only one user anyway and I'm not
sure there will be more of them in the future.
> * rips apart a lot of the suspend code and puts it back together using
> the hibernate_ops
> * switches ACPI to hibernate_ops (the only user of pm_ops.pm_disk_mode)
> * might apply/compile against -mm, I have all my and some of Rafael's
> suspend/hibernate work in my tree.
> * breaks user suspend as I noted above
> * is incomplete, somewhere pm_suspend_disk() is still defined iirc
I think I can fix it up, just give me some time.
The idea is good, I think we should do someting like this.
Greetings,
Rafael
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2007-04-26 16:31 ` suspend2 merge (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy) Johannes Berg
2007-04-26 18:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2007-04-26 18:40 ` Johannes Berg
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2007-04-26 19:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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2007-04-27 9:41 ` Johannes Berg
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2007-04-27 10:09 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 10:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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2007-04-27 10:19 ` Johannes Berg
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2007-04-27 12:07 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 12:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-29 12:48 ` [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) R. J. Wysocki
2007-04-29 12:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-30 8:29 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-30 14:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-30 14:59 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-01 14:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-01 22:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-02 5:13 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2007-05-02 13:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-02 14:11 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2007-05-02 19:26 ` ACPI code in platform mode hibernation code paths (was: Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops) Rafael J. Wysocki
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2007-05-03 22:48 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20070503224807.GD13426@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-05-03 23:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 10:54 ` Johannes Berg
[not found] ` <1178276072.7408.7.camel@johannes.berg>
2007-05-04 12:08 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20070504120802.GF13426@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-05-04 12:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-02 8:21 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Johannes Berg
2007-05-02 9:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-02 9:16 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-02 9:25 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-03 14:00 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-03 17:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-03 18:33 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-03 19:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-03 19:59 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-03 20:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 14:40 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-04 20:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 20:21 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 20:55 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-04 21:08 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 21:15 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-04 21:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 21:53 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 22:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 15:52 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-07 1:16 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ...) David Brownell
2007-05-07 21:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07 21:45 ` David Brownell
2007-05-07 22:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-09 19:23 ` David Brownell
2007-05-04 21:06 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 20:58 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-04 21:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 16:19 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-05 17:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 21:42 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-05 22:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 21:40 ` David Brownell
2007-05-04 22:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07 1:05 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ...)) David Brownell
2007-05-05 16:08 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Alan Stern
2007-05-05 17:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 21:43 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-05 22:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07 1:31 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ...) David Brownell
2007-05-07 16:33 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-07 20:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-07 21:38 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-08 0:30 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-03 20:33 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) David Brownell
2007-05-03 20:33 ` David Brownell
2007-05-03 20:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 14:51 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-04 14:56 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 20:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 22:00 ` David Brownell
2007-05-05 15:49 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-07 1:10 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ...)) David Brownell
2007-05-07 18:46 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-07 21:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07 22:22 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-07 22:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-08 14:56 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-08 19:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-08 21:26 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-09 8:17 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-09 15:21 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-09 19:35 ` David Brownell
2007-05-09 20:04 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-09 20:21 ` David Brownell
2007-05-10 15:17 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-09 21:07 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-07 21:43 ` David Brownell
2007-05-07 22:41 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-03 22:18 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Pavel Machek
2007-05-04 14:57 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-04 20:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 20:49 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 21:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 21:23 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 21:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 21:54 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 22:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 15:37 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-05 18:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 21:44 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-05 22:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-06 22:01 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-06 22:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07 1:37 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ..) David Brownell
2007-05-08 2:57 ` Greg KH
2007-05-07 8:51 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 22:12 ` David Brownell
2007-05-04 22:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 16:15 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-02 13:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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