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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: shrinking memory for suspend?
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 15:15:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705031515.04818.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17977.56024.199983.463385@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>

On Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:51, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> Rafael J. Wysocki writes:
> 
> > > Which is why the powermac/powerbook sleep code insists on there only
> > > being one cpu active.  I have an SMP powermac which can sleep; I use a
> > > little script to take the second cpu down before sleeping and bring it
> > > back up after waking up.
> > 
> > That's quite intrusive.  Ideally, user space processes should not notice that
> > there have been a suspend at one point.
> 
> Certainly, *most* userspace processes should not notice, and they
> don't.

This isn't quite true.  For example, if the suspend happens while one of the
'other' processes checks how many CPUs are online, it can get a wrong result
due to the suspend.

> But the process initiating the suspend most certainly knows 
> about the suspend happening.  And that's the one that arranges for
> taking the second cpu down and bringing it up.

Yes, obviously.

> So your objection seems silly to me, unless you meant something other than
> what your words seem to say.

Well, perhaps I should have used some other words, then. :-)

Besides, if your kernel is preemptible, the system behaves quite like an SMP
one.

Greetings,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-03 13:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-30 14:24 shrinking memory for suspend? Johannes Berg
2007-04-30 15:09 ` Alan Stern
2007-04-30 15:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-30 15:09   ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-30 19:57     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-02 11:29 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-02 14:02   ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-03 10:17     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-03 10:34       ` Paul Mackerras
2007-05-03 10:45         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-03 12:51           ` Paul Mackerras
2007-05-03 13:15             ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2007-05-03 16:34             ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-03 14:34           ` Alan Stern
2007-05-03 16:39             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-03 23:32             ` Paul Mackerras
2007-05-04  9:02               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 10:49                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-05-04 12:11                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 15:05               ` Alan Stern
2007-05-03 11:33       ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-03 12:56         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 10:48           ` Johannes Berg

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