From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Nigel Cunningham <nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy))
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 23:24:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705042324.24104.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070504205846.GB24123@elf.ucw.cz>
Hi,
On Friday, 4 May 2007 22:58, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > You all misunderstood the point I was trying to make.
> >
>
> > > acpi_enter_sleep_state(ACPI_STATE_S4), are just different pieces of one
> > > (complicated) 'platform' power off method. It doesn't make sense to use the
> > > (other) hibernation_ops without the ->enter() method.
> >
> > Let's look at the big picture.
> >
> > Entering hibernation basically involves these steps:
> >
> > 1. Freeze tasks
> >
> > 2. Quiesce devices and drivers
> >
> > 3. Create snapshot
> >
> > 4. Reactivate devices and drivers
> >
> > 5. Save snapshot to disk
> >
> > 6. Prepare devices for wakeup
> >
> > 7. Power down (ACPI S4 on systems which support it)
> >
> > Leaving hibernation involves a similar sequence which I won't discuss.
> >
> > Notice that steps 1-5 above are _completely_ independent of all issues
> > concerning wakeup devices and S4 vs. S5 vs. whatever. They have to
> > be
>
> No, they are not. You probably should tell ACPI at step 2 that you are
> suspending,
You can, but even if you don't, the BIOS shouldn't have problems. What might
have problems is our ACPI code during the resume, if it cannot get appropriate
information from the BIOS.
> and you definitely need to tell ACPI that you have resumed
> (so it can re-scan AC adapters, for example).
Yes, but that can be done in two different ways:
1) "We have restored the hibernation image, but the BIOS state corresponds to
a fresh reboot, so please initialize everything from scratch."
2) "We have restored the hibernation image and the ACPI S4 was used for
powering off (hint: you may try not to initialize everything from scratch)."
Of course, in the case 2) we are responsible for ensuring that the contents of
the hibernation image are consistent with the information preserved by the
BIOS.
Greetings,
Rafael
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2007-04-26 16:31 ` suspend2 merge (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy) Johannes Berg
2007-04-26 18:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-26 18:40 ` Johannes Berg
[not found] ` <1177612802.6814.121.camel@johannes.berg>
2007-04-26 19:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200704262102.38568.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-04-27 9:41 ` Johannes Berg
[not found] ` <1177666915.7828.35.camel@johannes.berg>
2007-04-27 10:09 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 10:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200704271218.07120.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-04-27 10:19 ` Johannes Berg
[not found] ` <1177669179.7828.53.camel@johannes.berg>
[not found] ` <200704271409.56687.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-04-27 12:07 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 12:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-29 12:48 ` [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) R. J. Wysocki
2007-04-29 12:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-30 8:29 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-30 14:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-30 14:59 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-01 14:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-01 22:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-02 5:13 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2007-05-02 13:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-02 14:11 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2007-05-02 19:26 ` ACPI code in platform mode hibernation code paths (was: Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops) Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200705022126.47897.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-05-03 22:48 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20070503224807.GD13426@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-05-03 23:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 10:54 ` Johannes Berg
[not found] ` <1178276072.7408.7.camel@johannes.berg>
2007-05-04 12:08 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20070504120802.GF13426@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-05-04 12:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-02 8:21 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Johannes Berg
2007-05-02 9:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-02 9:16 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-02 9:25 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-03 14:00 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-03 17:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-03 18:33 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-03 19:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-03 19:59 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-03 20:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 14:40 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-04 20:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 20:21 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 20:55 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-04 21:08 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 21:15 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-04 21:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 21:53 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 22:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 15:52 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-07 1:16 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ...) David Brownell
2007-05-07 21:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07 21:45 ` David Brownell
2007-05-07 22:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-09 19:23 ` David Brownell
2007-05-04 21:06 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 20:58 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-04 21:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2007-05-05 16:19 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-05 17:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 21:42 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-05 22:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 21:40 ` David Brownell
2007-05-04 22:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07 1:05 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ...)) David Brownell
2007-05-05 16:08 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Alan Stern
2007-05-05 17:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 21:43 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-05 22:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07 1:31 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ...) David Brownell
2007-05-07 16:33 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-07 20:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-07 21:38 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-08 0:30 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-03 20:33 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) David Brownell
2007-05-03 20:33 ` David Brownell
2007-05-03 20:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 14:51 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-04 14:56 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 20:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 22:00 ` David Brownell
2007-05-05 15:49 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-07 1:10 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ...)) David Brownell
2007-05-07 18:46 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-07 21:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07 22:22 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-07 22:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-08 14:56 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-08 19:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-08 21:26 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-09 8:17 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-09 15:21 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-09 19:35 ` David Brownell
2007-05-09 20:04 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-09 20:21 ` David Brownell
2007-05-10 15:17 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-09 21:07 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-07 21:43 ` David Brownell
2007-05-07 22:41 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-03 22:18 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Pavel Machek
2007-05-04 14:57 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-04 20:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 20:49 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 21:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 21:23 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 21:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 21:54 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 22:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 15:37 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-05 18:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 21:44 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-05 22:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-06 22:01 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-06 22:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07 1:37 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ..) David Brownell
2007-05-08 2:57 ` Greg KH
2007-05-07 8:51 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 22:12 ` David Brownell
2007-05-04 22:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 16:15 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-02 13:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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