From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Nigel Cunningham <nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ...))
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 23:07:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070509210709.GC8229@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0705091556520.8586-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
Hi!
> > > In fact, it is the state the computer enters
> > > when you first plug it in (or insert the battery).
> >
> > No; again, you're missing the entire point of G3 "mechanical off".
> >
> > When you first plug it in, it's going to be in G3. Then you turn
> > on the power switch. Then you press the "on/off" button.
> >
> > From then on you can use only the "on/off" button, but the system
> > is vampiric ... when off/dead, it can choose to come alive, and is
> > always sucking power/blood at a low level.
> >
> > But the "large red switch" option is available to put the system
> > into G3 ... driving a bloody stake through its heart, so it can't
> > re-activate itself at midnight, and preventing constant power drain.
>
> Sorry. What I meant to say was that S5 is the state the computer enters
> when you first plug it in and turn on the power switch -- before you press
> the on/off button.
Actually... some machines just power on when you first plug them in,
and some other have it configurable in BIOS.
For server, you want it to power up after power fail.
For home desktop, you definitely want it to stay powered off after
power fail.
Pavel
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2007-04-26 16:31 ` suspend2 merge (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy) Johannes Berg
2007-04-26 18:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-26 18:40 ` Johannes Berg
[not found] ` <1177612802.6814.121.camel@johannes.berg>
2007-04-26 19:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200704262102.38568.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-04-27 9:41 ` Johannes Berg
[not found] ` <1177666915.7828.35.camel@johannes.berg>
2007-04-27 10:09 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 10:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200704271218.07120.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-04-27 10:19 ` Johannes Berg
[not found] ` <1177669179.7828.53.camel@johannes.berg>
[not found] ` <200704271409.56687.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-04-27 12:07 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-27 12:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-29 12:48 ` [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) R. J. Wysocki
2007-04-29 12:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-30 8:29 ` Johannes Berg
2007-04-30 14:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-04-30 14:59 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-01 14:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-01 22:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-02 5:13 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2007-05-02 13:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-02 14:11 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2007-05-02 19:26 ` ACPI code in platform mode hibernation code paths (was: Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops) Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200705022126.47897.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-05-03 22:48 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20070503224807.GD13426@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-05-03 23:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 10:54 ` Johannes Berg
[not found] ` <1178276072.7408.7.camel@johannes.berg>
2007-05-04 12:08 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20070504120802.GF13426@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-05-04 12:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-02 8:21 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Johannes Berg
2007-05-02 9:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-02 9:16 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-02 9:25 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-03 14:00 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-03 17:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-03 18:33 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-03 19:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-03 19:59 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-03 20:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 14:40 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-04 20:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 20:21 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 20:55 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-04 21:08 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 21:15 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-04 21:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 21:53 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 22:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 15:52 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-07 1:16 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ...) David Brownell
2007-05-07 21:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07 21:45 ` David Brownell
2007-05-07 22:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-09 19:23 ` David Brownell
2007-05-04 21:06 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 20:58 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-04 21:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 16:19 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-05 17:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 21:42 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-05 22:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 21:40 ` David Brownell
2007-05-04 22:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07 1:05 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ...)) David Brownell
2007-05-05 16:08 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Alan Stern
2007-05-05 17:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 21:43 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-05 22:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07 1:31 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ...) David Brownell
2007-05-07 16:33 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-07 20:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-07 21:38 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-08 0:30 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-03 20:33 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) David Brownell
2007-05-03 20:33 ` David Brownell
2007-05-03 20:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 14:51 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-04 14:56 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 20:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 22:00 ` David Brownell
2007-05-05 15:49 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-07 1:10 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ...)) David Brownell
2007-05-07 18:46 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-07 21:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07 22:22 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-07 22:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-08 14:56 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-08 19:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-08 21:26 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-09 8:17 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-09 15:21 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-09 19:35 ` David Brownell
2007-05-09 20:04 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-09 20:21 ` David Brownell
2007-05-10 15:17 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-09 21:07 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2007-05-07 21:43 ` David Brownell
2007-05-07 22:41 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-03 22:18 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Pavel Machek
2007-05-04 14:57 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-04 20:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 20:49 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 21:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 21:23 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 21:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-04 21:54 ` Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 22:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 15:37 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-05 18:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 21:44 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-05 22:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-06 22:01 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-06 22:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-07 1:37 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: ..) David Brownell
2007-05-08 2:57 ` Greg KH
2007-05-07 8:51 ` Re: [PATCH] swsusp: do not use pm_ops (was: Re: suspend2 merge (was: Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)) Johannes Berg
2007-05-04 22:12 ` David Brownell
2007-05-04 22:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-05 16:15 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-02 13:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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