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From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: Michael-Luke Jones <mlj28@cam.ac.uk>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH -mm 3/3] PM: Disable _request_firmware before hibernation/suspend
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 16:41:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705291641.43476.rob@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6BD5252F-96CD-49D9-86C7-18115294D913@cam.ac.uk>

On Sunday 27 May 2007 4:45 pm, Michael-Luke Jones wrote:
> (Slightly OT: A particularly nasty race is when an initramfs  
> userspace is present, but firmware loading cannot occur because init  
> has not run, so proc hasn't been mounted, so a hotplug event handler  
> cannot be registered, despite the fact that the firmware is sitting  
> on the ramdisk mounted correctly...)

I believe that the current functionality is that /sbin/hotplug is the default.  
I think that if there is one in initramfs, it'll get called as a usermode 
helper, even before init has run.  (If it needs /proc /sys or /dev, setting 
it up properly is its problem, but not an insurmountable one.)

I remember discussion of this a while back, and that it was indeed 
intentional.  I dunno if anybody's actually tried it.

Rob

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-29 20:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200705272229.21263.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-05-27 20:30 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 1/3] PM: Hibernation and suspend notifiers Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-27 20:30 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 2/3] PM: Disable usermode helper before hibernation/suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-27 20:31 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 3/3] PM: Disable _request_firmware " Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] ` <200705272230.56863.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-05-28 13:04   ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 2/3] PM: Disable usermode helper " Pavel Machek
     [not found] ` <200705272230.04478.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-05-28  9:49   ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 1/3] PM: Hibernation and suspend notifiers Nigel Cunningham
2007-05-28 13:12   ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 17:26     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-28 15:56   ` Alan Stern
2007-05-28 17:29     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-29 22:24     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]     ` <200705300024.32455.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-05-30 15:37       ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]       ` <20070530153740.GA4772@ucw.cz>
2007-05-30 20:44         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]         ` <200705302244.25927.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-05-30 21:11           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]           ` <200705302311.40123.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-05-30 22:24             ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-05-31  5:44               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]               ` <200705310744.44488.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-05-31 14:23                 ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                 ` <20070531142357.GK27309@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-05-31 20:02                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-31 21:56                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-05-30 22:29             ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]             ` <20070530222956.GD27309@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-05-31  5:42               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] ` <200705272231.54535.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-05-27 20:45   ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 3/3] PM: Disable _request_firmware before hibernation/suspend Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-27 20:49   ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]   ` <20070527204955.GA22202@srcf.ucam.org>
2007-05-27 21:45     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-27 21:49     ` Kay Sievers
     [not found]     ` <3ae72650705271449q37f523c3t5980541122ab871@mail.gmail.com>
2007-05-27 22:01       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-27 22:04       ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]       ` <20070527220412.GC22687@srcf.ucam.org>
2007-05-27 22:16         ` Kay Sievers
     [not found]         ` <1180304166.3131.66.camel@lov.localdomain>
2007-05-28  7:43           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-28  8:48             ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-28  9:06               ` Kay Sievers
2007-05-28 10:26                 ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-28 12:01                   ` Kay Sievers
2007-05-28 12:07                     ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-28 10:41                 ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-29 21:19                 ` Rob Landley
2007-05-29 22:51               ` Rob Landley
2007-05-30 19:50                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 11:15             ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 11:24               ` Kay Sievers
2007-05-28 11:28                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 11:38                 ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-28 11:45                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 11:51                   ` Kay Sievers
2007-05-28 12:26                     ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-28 12:47                       ` Kay Sievers
2007-05-28 13:00                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 13:10                         ` Michael-Luke Jones
2007-05-28 11:28               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]     ` <200705272345.04518.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-05-27 22:01       ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-28  8:30       ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-05-28 11:22         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]       ` <20070527220158.GB22687@srcf.ucam.org>
2007-05-28  7:44         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-28 16:09         ` Alan Stern
2007-05-28 16:12           ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-28 16:43             ` Alan Stern
2007-05-28 16:54               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-05-28 20:03                 ` Alan Stern
2007-05-28 20:57               ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 22:29                 ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0705281719200.10323-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2007-05-29 20:09                   ` David Brownell
2007-06-04 11:00                   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]   ` <6BD5252F-96CD-49D9-86C7-18115294D913@cam.ac.uk>
2007-05-27 21:55     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-28 13:01     ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-29 20:41     ` Rob Landley [this message]
2007-05-28 13:07   ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 15:55   ` Alan Stern
2007-05-28 17:43     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-05-28 20:51       ` Ray Lee
2007-05-28 20:59         ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-02  0:41 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 0/2] PM: Hibernation and suspend notifiers (rev. 2) Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] ` <200706020241.53788.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-06-02  0:43   ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 1/2] PM: Introduce hibernation and suspend notifiers Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-02  0:44   ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 2/2] PM: Disable usermode helper before hibernation and suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]   ` <200706020243.20117.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-06-03 16:41     ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 1/2] PM: Introduce hibernation and suspend notifiers Pavel Machek
     [not found]     ` <20070603164143.GB4093@ucw.cz>
2007-06-03 22:38       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]       ` <200706040038.54161.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-06-03 22:59         ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]         ` <20070603225903.GC2971@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-06-04  7:56           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]   ` <200706020244.50180.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-06-03 16:42     ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 2/2] PM: Disable usermode helper before hibernation and suspend Pavel Machek
     [not found] <20070604110052.GI4363@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-06-05 18:45 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 3/3] PM: Disable _request_firmware before hibernation/suspend Alan Stern
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0706051420351.2606-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2007-06-05 20:26   ` Pavel Machek

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