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From: Nigel Cunningham <nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH -mm] PM: Do not sync filesystems from
	within the freezer
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 19:13:56 +1000
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To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
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Hi.

On Friday 06 July 2007 19:05:53 Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 09:13 +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > >=20
> > > Another myth, that has been debunked already.  The problem is: how do
> > > you define fuse processes?  There's no theoretical or even practial
> > > way to do that.
> >=20
> > It could if they told the kernel via some black magic ...
> >=20
> > But that still suck. The freezer sucks :-)
>=20
> Yeah, and it wouldn't work in practice, since the auxilary tasks might
> be part of a library which is not even aware of being used by a "fuse
> task".

This is why I think the whole concept of filesystems in userspace is broken=
=2E=20
Trying to shift things that need special privilege and special handling to=
=20
userspace is just asking for trouble. You can say it's the kernel code's=20
fault, but then you have to explain why it's only fuse (yeah ok, and XFS)=20
that have problems.

Regards,

Nigel
=2D-=20
See http://www.tuxonice.net for Howtos, FAQs, mailing
lists, wiki and bugzilla info.

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