From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 12:02:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070709100204.GN5401@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200707090847.43378.oliver@neukum.org>
Hi!
> > > But I'm not sure it's a good idea in the long run. Think of a printer
> > > daemon, for example. It shouldn't have to experience unexpected I/O
> > > problems merely because someone has decided to put the system to sleep.
> >
> > Why not ? Printer is offline when machine is asleep... trying to print
...filesystems are offline, too, when the machine is asleep. Yet,
unmounting everything on suspend would not result in useful suspend
support.
Yes, I believe we should be transparent.
Pavel
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[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707072224270.10912-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2007-07-08 5:14 ` [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] ` <1183871661.3388.282.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-08 5:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-08 19:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-08 20:16 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-08 20:55 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <200707082115.27363.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-08 21:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-08 21:07 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-08 21:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200707082345.27859.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-08 21:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] ` <1183931688.3388.316.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-08 22:13 ` hibernation/snapshot design [was Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway] Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20070708221315.GF5401@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-07-08 22:23 ` david
2007-07-08 23:00 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20070708230042.GH5401@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-07-08 23:20 ` david
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707081614211.25614@asgard.lang.hm>
2007-07-08 23:28 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20070708232819.GJ5401@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-07-08 23:45 ` david
2007-07-09 15:23 ` hibernation/snapshot design Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-08 23:01 ` hibernation/snapshot design [was Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway] Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200707090101.28832.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-08 23:03 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 1:33 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <200707101133.01566.nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>
2007-07-10 1:56 ` Paul Mackerras
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707081517540.11049-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2007-07-08 21:01 ` [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway Pavel Machek
2007-07-08 21:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-08 21:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <1183929611.3388.303.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-08 22:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200707090006.32712.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-09 0:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-09 0:57 ` Kyle Moffett
[not found] ` <FFA29D56-3400-4EA3-8CE8-C1EF75484510@mac.com>
2007-07-09 1:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-09 6:47 ` Oliver Neukum
[not found] ` <200707090847.43378.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-09 9:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-09 9:23 ` Oliver Neukum
[not found] ` <200707091123.57400.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-09 9:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-09 14:57 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-07-09 10:02 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2007-07-09 10:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-09 16:03 ` Alan Stern
[not found] <200707082046.36864.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-08 20:22 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707081619090.11049-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2007-07-08 21:08 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-08 21:21 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] ` <1183929708.3388.306.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-09 6:52 ` Oliver Neukum
[not found] ` <200707090852.03429.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-09 9:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-09 11:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] <1183871941.3388.286.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-08 20:17 ` Alan Stern
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707072218030.10912-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2007-07-08 4:39 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-08 18:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-08 18:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] <1183855732.3388.240.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-08 2:53 ` Alan Stern
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707071255590.26860-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2007-07-08 0:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] <1183781219.3388.225.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-07 17:19 ` Alan Stern
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707062210470.7605-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2007-07-07 4:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707061034540.3737-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2007-07-07 3:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-07 11:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-08 0:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-07 16:17 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-08 0:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] ` <1183855362.3388.233.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-08 2:24 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-08 18:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] <EAA83A3B-1534-458B-A6F8-D090D670D4E7@mac.com>
2007-07-07 2:59 ` Alan Stern
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707061114190.3737-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2007-07-07 0:43 ` Kyle Moffett
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707051023520.3728-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2007-07-05 17:42 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-05 20:43 ` Alan Stern
[not found] <20070703224215.GA30081@srcf.ucam.org>
2007-07-04 14:38 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707041030540.25704-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2007-07-04 14:58 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20070704145818.GA7784@srcf.ucam.org>
2007-07-04 15:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-04 15:57 ` Alan Stern
[not found] <fa.ftLWBLCc+XqdYjiuxoPg+qyuUOE@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.Oxrm8HYXTOF4jv5LrTjEe16lCE0@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.d3GOse+YbAb42uYwLymWkJiH9Fw@ifi.uio.no>
2007-07-04 0:17 ` Robert Hancock
[not found] ` <468AE700.7080102@shaw.ca>
2007-07-04 0:34 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20070704003424.GA30958@srcf.ucam.org>
2007-07-04 10:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] <20070703211227.GA28758@srcf.ucam.org>
2007-07-03 21:16 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707031713530.8010-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2007-07-03 21:20 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-03 21:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-03 22:21 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707031814440.8010-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2007-07-03 22:42 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <200707032337.52544.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-03 21:36 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20070703213639.GA29149@srcf.ucam.org>
2007-07-03 21:47 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-03 22:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-04 3:38 ` Paul Mackerras
[not found] ` <18059.5690.908102.273897@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
2007-07-04 10:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-04 10:58 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-07-04 11:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200707041325.55779.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-04 11:34 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-07-04 11:51 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-04 12:41 ` Theodore Tso
[not found] ` <20070704124133.GA5836@thunk.org>
2007-07-04 14:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <E1I63Nv-0006Z9-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
2007-07-04 14:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-04 14:45 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-04 15:03 ` Oliver Neukum
[not found] ` <200707041703.21808.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-04 15:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200707041717.05149.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-05 0:29 ` Paul Mackerras
[not found] ` <18060.15209.274437.471074@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
2007-07-05 12:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 15:13 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-04 15:42 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-04 19:25 ` Miklos Szeredi
[not found] ` <E1I6ATN-0007QS-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
2007-07-04 21:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-05 8:37 ` Miklos Szeredi
[not found] ` <E1I6Mq2-0008WB-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
2007-07-05 12:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200707051439.37737.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-05 12:39 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-05 16:10 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <468D17FA.8040201@goop.org>
2007-07-05 17:45 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-05 0:43 ` Paul Mackerras
[not found] ` <18060.16064.519060.755991@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
2007-07-05 12:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-05 0:36 ` Paul Mackerras
[not found] ` <18060.15630.812698.367707@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <200707051451.38497.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-05 12:50 ` Johannes Berg
[not found] ` <1183639825.3818.38.camel@johannes.berg>
2007-07-05 13:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-05 12:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-05 14:25 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <18059.34264.421573.246262@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
2007-07-04 14:12 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2007-07-04 15:38 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-04 19:07 ` Alan Stern
[not found] <20070703202329.GA27927@srcf.ucam.org>
2007-07-03 21:10 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707031708080.8010-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2007-07-03 21:12 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] <20070703042916.GA17240@srcf.ucam.org>
2007-07-03 4:54 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <200707031454.42078.nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>
2007-07-03 5:21 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20070703052130.GA17605@srcf.ucam.org>
2007-07-03 5:24 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-03 5:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] ` <1183441706.10386.73.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-03 6:08 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <200707031608.06348.nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>
2007-07-03 7:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] ` <1183447184.10386.102.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-03 12:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200707031456.40890.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-03 21:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] ` <1183497290.3388.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-03 21:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200707032332.49694.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-03 21:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] ` <1183498555.3388.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-03 22:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-05 9:30 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20070705093013.GA3228@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-07-05 22:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] ` <1183675615.3388.81.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-05 23:13 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <200707060913.05644.nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>
2007-07-05 23:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] ` <1183677643.3388.105.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-05 23:35 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <200707060935.12706.nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>
2007-07-06 1:19 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-07-06 3:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] ` <1183694055.3388.108.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-06 4:03 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <200707061403.15932.nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>
2007-07-06 4:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-06 5:25 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-06 5:01 ` Kyle Moffett
[not found] ` <CF605B91-2425-4FC2-9434-5F8877EEEEEB@mac.com>
2007-07-06 5:53 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-10 2:07 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <200707101207.16711.nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>
2007-07-10 3:03 ` Kyle Moffett
[not found] ` <CF60EC03-0171-4052-924D-57555A393168@mac.com>
2007-07-06 1:37 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-06 3:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] ` <1183694347.3388.114.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-06 7:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-06 9:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-06 14:38 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-06 15:42 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-05 0:03 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-03 5:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-03 5:51 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-03 6:13 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-03 7:37 ` Romano Giannetti
[not found] ` <1183448224.12649.14.camel@localhost>
2007-07-03 8:20 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-03 13:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200707030813.53481.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-03 6:51 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-03 12:13 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20070703121313.GA21318@srcf.ucam.org>
2007-07-03 13:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-03 12:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <1183441748.10386.75.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-03 13:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <1183441887.10386.77.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-03 13:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200707031508.45595.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-03 15:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200707031709.29968.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-03 17:20 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-03 20:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-03 21:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] ` <1183498518.3388.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-03 22:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-04 23:39 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20070704233909.GB2719@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-07-05 6:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-03 18:26 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-03 19:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-03 19:32 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-03 19:47 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-03 21:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-03 21:48 ` Oliver Neukum
[not found] ` <200707032348.42796.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-03 21:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] ` <1183499792.3388.16.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-03 22:04 ` Oliver Neukum
[not found] ` <200707040004.16357.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-03 23:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] ` <1183504112.3388.45.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2007-07-04 8:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-04 23:45 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20070704234523.GC2719@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-07-05 12:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200707051425.07904.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-05 12:38 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <200707052238.27889.nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>
2007-07-05 13:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200707051535.46196.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-05 13:36 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <200707052336.27585.nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>
2007-07-05 13:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200707051559.58479.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-05 21:49 ` Nigel Cunningham
[not found] ` <200707060749.08665.nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>
[not found] ` <200707060940.23248.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-06 7:39 ` Miklos Szeredi
[not found] ` <E1I6iPL-0003Hj-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
2007-07-06 7:51 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-06 9:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-06 9:16 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-06 9:33 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-06 7:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-03 21:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-03 19:27 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20070703192729.GA2125@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-07-03 21:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-03 21:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-07-03 16:03 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-03 16:05 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-03 16:57 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-03 17:02 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-03 19:33 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-03 19:42 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-03 19:54 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-03 20:23 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-04 23:33 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-03 4:29 Matthew Garrett
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