From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH -mm 5/6] Freezer: Use freezing timeout more efficiently
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 01:34:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070709233414.GI1967@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200707092238.19267.rjw@sisk.pl>
Hi!
> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
>
> The freezer fails if there are uninterruptible tasks waiting for some frozen
> tasks to let them continue. Moreover, in that case try_to_freeze_tasks() loops
> uselessly until the timeout expires which is wasteful, so in principle we should
> make the freezer fail as soon as all the tasks that refuse to freeze are
> uninterruptible. However, instead of failing the freezer we can try to use the
> time left and thaw the tasks that have already been frozen without
> clearing the
No, we can't do that:
Imagine we have single uninterruptible task that waits for disk. It
would exit uninterruptible state in 10msec, *but* you give up and
unfreeze all. Now, another task goes uninterruptible waiting for
disk and situation repeats. Livelock.
Yes, this might play with races in interresting ways and help fuse,
but we do not want the livelock in the first place.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-09 23:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-09 20:29 [RFC][PATCH -mm 0/6] Freezer update Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 20:31 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 1/6] Freezer: Do not sync filesystems Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:12 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 0:31 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-09 20:32 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 2/6] Freezer: Do not send signals to kernel threads Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:42 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 5:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 15:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 21:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 21:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-09 20:33 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 3/6] Freezer: Be more verbose Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:46 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 6:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 15:05 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-09 20:34 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 4/6] Freezer: Prevent new tasks from inheriting TIF_FREEZE set Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:21 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 6:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 15:05 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-09 20:38 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 5/6] Freezer: Use freezing timeout more efficiently Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:34 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2007-07-10 6:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 10:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 17:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 20:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 20:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 21:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 18:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 19:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 20:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 20:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 21:13 ` bogosort (was Re: Re: [RFC][PATCH -mm 5/6] Freezer: Use freezing timeout more efficiently) Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 21:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 21:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 21:39 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 22:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 22:21 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-23 8:04 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-23 19:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 20:41 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 6/6] Freezer: Document relationship with memory shrinking Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:23 ` Pavel Machek
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