From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Subject: Re: Re: [RFC][PATCH -mm 5/6] Freezer: Use freezing timeout more efficiently
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:35:05 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070710203505.GA148@tv-sign.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200707102154.03531.rjw@sisk.pl>
On 07/10, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, 10 July 2007 20:50, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> >
> > I just noticed we don't use thaw_process(), this means that the retry doesn't
> > play well with wait_event_freezable() introduced in the previous patch.
> >
> > Suppose that kthread_stop(T) hangs and blocks the freezer, and T does
>
> The retry mechanism only applies to user land processes. :-)
>
> > while (!kthread_should_stop()) {
> > wait_event_freezable(...);
> > do_something();
> > }
> >
> > and it is freezed. We clear PF_FROZEN but not TIF_FREEZE, wait_event_freezable
> > checks freezing() and goes to refrigerator again.
>
> PF_FROZEN and TIF_FREEZE are mutually exclusive as long as the thawing is
> not racing with refrigerator().
Ah yes, I forgot. Thanks!
> > Another problem is that we only count UNINTERRUPTIBLE tasks to make a decision
> > about retry, while wait_event_freezable() sleeps NTERRUPTIBLE.
>
> The retry thing doesn't cover kernel threads, because they aren't supposed to
> block the freezer. They are supposed to freeze voluntarily and to know
> _exactly_ what they are doing.
Ok, I see... So, the plan is to eventually fix the "problematic" things like
kthread_stop(), yes? Unless I missed something again, we can't reliably
kthread_stop() the thread above even if it does
wait_event_freezable(my_condition || kthread_should_stop())
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-10 20:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-09 20:29 [RFC][PATCH -mm 0/6] Freezer update Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 20:31 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 1/6] Freezer: Do not sync filesystems Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:12 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 0:31 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-09 20:32 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 2/6] Freezer: Do not send signals to kernel threads Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:42 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 5:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 15:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 21:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 21:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-09 20:33 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 3/6] Freezer: Be more verbose Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:46 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 6:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 15:05 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-09 20:34 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 4/6] Freezer: Prevent new tasks from inheriting TIF_FREEZE set Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:21 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 6:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 15:05 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-09 20:38 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 5/6] Freezer: Use freezing timeout more efficiently Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:34 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 6:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 10:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 17:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 20:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 20:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 21:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 18:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 19:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 20:35 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2007-07-10 20:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 21:13 ` bogosort (was Re: Re: [RFC][PATCH -mm 5/6] Freezer: Use freezing timeout more efficiently) Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 21:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 21:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 21:39 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 22:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 22:21 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-23 8:04 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-23 19:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 20:41 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 6/6] Freezer: Document relationship with memory shrinking Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:23 ` Pavel Machek
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