From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Subject: Re: Re: [RFC][PATCH -mm 5/6] Freezer: Use freezing timeout more efficiently
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:55:08 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070710205508.GA173@tv-sign.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200707102230.33407.rjw@sisk.pl>
On 07/10, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, 10 July 2007 19:17, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> > Just watch the "todo", it it doesn't decrease during BREAK_TIMEOUT, then retry.
> > No?
>
> No, it is computed from the start in every interation and I compare the result
> from the previous iteration with the current result. Still, I don't compare 'todo'
> with 'todo from the previous step' directly, because the lock up can only
> happen if 'todo' is equal to 'blocking'. For this reason, it is sufficient to
> compare 'blocking' with 'prev_blocking' (ie. 'blocking' from the previous
> step) and 'todo' with 'blocking' (the test if 'todo' > 0 is not essential;
> well, I should remove it in accordance with my signature ;-)).
Yes, I see what the code does. My question was: why it is not good enough to just
compare 'todo' with 'todo from the previous step' ? If 'todo' does not decrease
during the BREAK_TIMEOUT period, probably we should retry. A fork() from user-space
should not succeed because we send a fake signal to all tasks.
> > > + if (todo && freeze_user_space && !time_after(jiffies, end_time)) {
> > > + /*
> > > + * Some tasks have not been able to freeze. They might be stuck
> > > + * in TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE waiting for the frozen tasks. Try to
> > > + * thaw the tasks that have frozen without clearing the freeze
> > > + * requests of the remaining tasks and repeat.
> > > + */
> >
> > Another question, why do we check "freeze_user_space" here?
>
> Well, the assumption is that the freezable kernel threads won't lock up the
> freezer in such a way (that may be overoptimistic, but I'd like to make it
> for now).
OK, understand.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-10 20:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-09 20:29 [RFC][PATCH -mm 0/6] Freezer update Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 20:31 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 1/6] Freezer: Do not sync filesystems Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:12 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 0:31 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-09 20:32 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 2/6] Freezer: Do not send signals to kernel threads Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:42 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 5:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 15:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 21:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 21:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-09 20:33 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 3/6] Freezer: Be more verbose Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:46 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 6:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 15:05 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-09 20:34 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 4/6] Freezer: Prevent new tasks from inheriting TIF_FREEZE set Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:21 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 6:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 15:05 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-09 20:38 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 5/6] Freezer: Use freezing timeout more efficiently Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:34 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 6:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 10:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 17:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 20:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 20:55 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2007-07-10 21:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 18:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 19:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 20:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 20:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 21:13 ` bogosort (was Re: Re: [RFC][PATCH -mm 5/6] Freezer: Use freezing timeout more efficiently) Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 21:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 21:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 21:39 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 22:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 22:21 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-23 8:04 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-23 19:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 20:41 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 6/6] Freezer: Document relationship with memory shrinking Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:23 ` Pavel Machek
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