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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Subject: Re: Re: [RFC][PATCH -mm 5/6] Freezer: Use freezing timeout more efficiently
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:54:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200707102154.03531.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070710185059.GA92@tv-sign.ru>

On Tuesday, 10 July 2007 20:50, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 07/10, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >
> > +	if (todo && freeze_user_space && !time_after(jiffies, end_time)) {
> > +		/*
> > +		 * Some tasks have not been able to freeze.  They might be stuck
> > +		 * in TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE waiting for the frozen tasks.  Try to
> > +		 * thaw the tasks that have frozen without clearing the freeze
> > +		 * requests of the remaining tasks and repeat.
> > +		 */
> > +		read_lock(&tasklist_lock);
> > +		do_each_thread(g, p) {
> > +			if (frozen(p)) {
> > +				p->flags &= ~PF_FROZEN;
> > +				wake_up_process(p);
> 
> I just noticed we don't use thaw_process(), this means that the retry doesn't
> play well with wait_event_freezable() introduced in the previous patch.
> 
> Suppose that kthread_stop(T) hangs and blocks the freezer, and T does

The retry mechanism only applies to user land processes. :-)

> 	while (!kthread_should_stop()) {
> 		wait_event_freezable(...);
> 		do_something();
> 	}
> 
> and it is freezed. We clear PF_FROZEN but not TIF_FREEZE, wait_event_freezable
> checks freezing() and goes to refrigerator again.

PF_FROZEN and TIF_FREEZE are mutually exclusive as long as the thawing is
not racing with refrigerator().  I don't think that this is of concern here, but we can take
task_lock() in the freezing loop.

> Another problem is that we only count UNINTERRUPTIBLE tasks to make a decision
> about retry, while wait_event_freezable() sleeps NTERRUPTIBLE.

The retry thing doesn't cover kernel threads, because they aren't supposed to
block the freezer.  They are supposed to freeze voluntarily and to know
_exactly_ what they are doing.

Greetings,
Rafael


-- 
"Premature optimization is the root of all evil." - Donald Knuth

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-10 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-09 20:29 [RFC][PATCH -mm 0/6] Freezer update Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 20:31 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 1/6] Freezer: Do not sync filesystems Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:12   ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10  0:31     ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-09 20:32 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 2/6] Freezer: Do not send signals to kernel threads Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:42   ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10  5:57     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 15:00   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 21:08     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 21:22       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-09 20:33 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 3/6] Freezer: Be more verbose Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:46   ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10  6:01     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 15:05       ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-09 20:34 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 4/6] Freezer: Prevent new tasks from inheriting TIF_FREEZE set Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:21   ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10  6:03     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 15:05       ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-09 20:38 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 5/6] Freezer: Use freezing timeout more efficiently Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:34   ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10  6:09     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 10:04       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 17:17         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 20:30           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 20:55             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 21:15               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 18:50         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 19:54           ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2007-07-10 20:35             ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 20:57               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 21:13         ` bogosort (was Re: Re: [RFC][PATCH -mm 5/6] Freezer: Use freezing timeout more efficiently) Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 21:38           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 21:39           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 21:39             ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 22:07               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 22:21                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-23  8:04                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-23 19:16                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 20:41 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 6/6] Freezer: Document relationship with memory shrinking Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:23   ` Pavel Machek

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