From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Subject: Re: bogosort (was Re: Re: [RFC][PATCH -mm 5/6] Freezer: Use freezing timeout more efficiently)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:21:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070710222142.GA7113@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200707110007.35449.rjw@sisk.pl>
Hi!
> > > > Task here is to sort the tasks, and freeze them in such order that
> > > > freezing works, right? Yep, we do not know the dependencies
> > > > explicitely... but what you invented is bogosort.
> > >
> > > Define, please?
> >
> > Uff, sorry. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogosort .
>
> So this thing is not bogosort, because it makes the tasks that haven't frozen
> appear on the bottom. IOW, the first (failing) freezing attempt is used as
> a sieve, so the process is not completely random.
>
> This actually is important, because the things like FUSE should be taken
> care of within a couple of iterations.
Aha, ok, I misunderstood the code. So you try to freeze the things
that could not be frozen, first? Hmm, something like that could
work...
> > Hmm, if someone wants to retry... perhaps we should just return
> > specific error and let the _userland_ do the retries? It can do it as
> > efficiently as outer loop in freezer...
>
> No, because _that_ would be bogosort, as defined in Wikipedia. :-)
So it is me who invented bogosort, heh ;-).
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-10 22:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-09 20:29 [RFC][PATCH -mm 0/6] Freezer update Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 20:31 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 1/6] Freezer: Do not sync filesystems Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:12 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 0:31 ` Matthew Garrett
2007-07-09 20:32 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 2/6] Freezer: Do not send signals to kernel threads Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:42 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 5:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 15:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 21:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 21:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-09 20:33 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 3/6] Freezer: Be more verbose Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:46 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 6:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 15:05 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-09 20:34 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 4/6] Freezer: Prevent new tasks from inheriting TIF_FREEZE set Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:21 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 6:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 15:05 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-09 20:38 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 5/6] Freezer: Use freezing timeout more efficiently Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:34 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 6:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 10:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 17:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 20:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 20:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 21:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 18:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 19:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 20:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 20:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 21:13 ` bogosort (was Re: Re: [RFC][PATCH -mm 5/6] Freezer: Use freezing timeout more efficiently) Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 21:38 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-07-10 21:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 21:39 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-10 22:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-10 22:21 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2007-07-23 8:04 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-23 19:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 20:41 ` [RFC][PATCH -mm 6/6] Freezer: Document relationship with memory shrinking Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-09 23:23 ` Pavel Machek
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