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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: david@lang.hm, Kexec Mailing List <kexec@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base	hibernation
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:22:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200707171622.53657.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1184676518.10998.34.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com>

On Tuesday, 17 July 2007 14:48, Huang, Ying wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 01:13 -0700, david@lang.hm wrote:
> > however, since the resume designed for ACPI won't work would the following 
> > approach work
> > 
> > 1. boot one kernel
> > 2. setup a kexec the same way you would for hibernate
> > 3. kexec to the new kernel
> > 4. overwrite the memory of the first kernel
> > 5. kexec 'back' to the main kernel that has now been overwritten by what was saved?
> > 
> > as part of this question, when you do a kexec, how does the kernel that 
> > you are doing the kexec to know what to run next?
> 
> For kernel in 3 that do kexec, the devices and CPU state are saved into
> memory before executing the new kernel. So when jumping back, the
> control will continue from kexec point. If the memory image of main
> kernel is restored from disk, the devices and CPU state in memory is
> restored too. Before jumping back in 5, the devices are put in the known
> state, after jumping back, the devices and CPU state is restored. If the
> "kexec -j" is used to trigger the kexec in 3, the system will continue
> with "kexec -j" exiting with exit code 0.
> 
> > it needs to do some initialization first before it starts running normal 
> > things, and at that point it the move back doesn't look for init like a 
> > normal kernel boot (or the system would effectivly boot instead of picking 
> > up where it left off)
> 
> I think the early initialization can be done in a initramfs. At that
> point, the resume image can be checked, the next step depends on the
> result of checking.
> 
> > is this 'restart point' flexible enough that either the pre-hibernate 
> > kerenl or the small hibernate kernel could tell the pre-hibernate kernel 
> > to go into suspend-to-ram mode before doing anything else?
> 
> It is possible for hibernate kernel to pass information back to
> pre-hibernate kernel. For example, the information can be passed in jump
> buffer page. 

I think it would be reasonable to have a protocol defined for passing this
information, so that it's independent of the kernel version etc.

Greetings,
Rafael


-- 
"Premature optimization is the root of all evil." - Donald Knuth

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-17 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-11 15:30 [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base hibernation Huang, Ying
2007-07-11 11:13 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-12  0:22 ` Andrew Morton
2007-07-12  5:48   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
     [not found]   ` <4695C096.5080400@goop.org>
2007-07-12  6:43     ` david
2007-07-12 12:46       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]       ` <200707121446.14170.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-12 13:51         ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 18:42         ` david
     [not found]         ` <469631FA.2070405@rtr.ca>
2007-07-12 14:49           ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-12 15:35           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]           ` <200707121735.40077.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-12 16:03             ` Mark Lord
     [not found]             ` <469650DE.4000901@rtr.ca>
2007-07-12 16:35               ` Mark Lord
     [not found]               ` <46965837.8030907@rtr.ca>
2007-07-12 20:05                 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
     [not found]                 ` <87y7hl2xro.fsf@jbms.ath.cx>
2007-07-13  2:38                   ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 16:09           ` Alan Stern
2007-07-12 18:49           ` david
     [not found]         ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707121138140.25614@asgard.lang.hm>
     [not found]           ` <200707122120.19662.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-12 19:14             ` david
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707121210210.25614@asgard.lang.hm>
2007-07-12 19:45               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 19:20           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]     ` <1184260174.9346.85.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com>
2007-07-12 12:47       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 17:09     ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 12:38   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]   ` <1184251423.9346.55.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com>
2007-07-12  7:03     ` david
2007-07-12 12:53     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 16:32     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707112345250.28090@asgard.lang.hm>
     [not found]       ` <1184260683.9346.91.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com>
2007-07-12 10:10         ` david
2007-07-12 13:01           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 13:55           ` Mark Lord
2007-07-12 19:05             ` david
2007-07-12 14:06           ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]           ` <200707121501.03016.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-12 13:22             ` jimmy bahuleyan
2007-07-12 19:03             ` david
2007-07-12 17:18       ` Huang, Ying
     [not found]     ` <200707121453.49616.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-12 18:57       ` david
     [not found]       ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707121150460.25614@asgard.lang.hm>
2007-07-12 19:34         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]         ` <200707122134.29991.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-12 19:55           ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
     [not found]           ` <877ip54cti.fsf@jbms.ath.cx>
2007-07-12 20:45             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13  3:12             ` david
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707122008550.25614@asgard.lang.hm>
2007-07-13  9:17               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13  9:25                 ` david
2007-07-13 11:41                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                   ` <200707131341.35801.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-14  7:51                     ` david
     [not found]                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707140017560.25614@asgard.lang.hm>
2007-07-14  8:33                       ` david
     [not found]                       ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707140128210.25614@asgard.lang.hm>
2007-07-14  9:24                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 20:00                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 20:34                         ` david
     [not found]                         ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707141257290.14672@asgard.lang.hm>
2007-07-14 21:06                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                           ` <200707142306.33783.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-14 21:13                             ` david
2007-07-15 10:31                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                               ` <200707151231.27410.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-15 19:23                                 ` david
2007-07-15 22:59                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                   ` <200707160059.08277.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-15 23:22                                     ` david
     [not found]                                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707151549200.25614@asgard.lang.hm>
2007-07-16 12:17                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                       ` <200707161417.50166.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-16 14:42                                         ` Huang, Ying
     [not found]                                         ` <1184596950.24143.28.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com>
2007-07-16 15:40                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                           ` <200707161740.26703.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-17  4:18                                             ` david
2007-07-17 11:46                                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 21:34                         ` david
2007-07-15 10:39                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                           ` <200707151239.28400.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-15 19:33                             ` david
     [not found]                             ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707151224160.25614@asgard.lang.hm>
2007-07-15 23:11                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                               ` <200707160111.16805.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-15 23:33                                 ` david
2007-07-13  3:06           ` david
2007-07-13  5:42             ` Hibernating To Swap Considered Harmful Joseph Fannin
2007-07-13  5:57               ` david
2007-07-13  6:20                 ` Joseph Fannin
     [not found]                 ` <20070713062039.GA29055@nineveh.local>
2007-07-13  6:27                   ` david
     [not found]                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707122319270.25614@asgard.lang.hm>
2007-07-13  7:15                     ` Joseph Fannin
     [not found]                     ` <20070713071512.GB29055@nineveh.local>
2007-07-13 14:35                       ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
     [not found]                       ` <87odig1idx.fsf@jbms.ath.cx>
2007-07-17  0:12                         ` Joseph Fannin
     [not found]                         ` <20070717001239.GB20082@nineveh.local>
2007-07-17  5:44                           ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                           ` <200707170744.08191.oliver@neukum.org>
2007-07-17  6:28                             ` Joseph Fannin
     [not found]                             ` <20070717062803.GA9069@nineveh.local>
2007-07-17  6:42                               ` david
2007-07-17  7:26                                 ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-17  7:34                                   ` david
2007-07-17 11:52                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707170030460.19248@asgard.lang.hm>
2007-07-17 11:54                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17  7:10                               ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-13  9:30               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]               ` <200707131130.51279.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-14  0:45                 ` Joseph Fannin
     [not found]                 ` <20070714004517.GA18336@nineveh.local>
2007-07-14  9:48                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                   ` <200707141148.18279.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-16  5:37                     ` Joseph Fannin
2007-07-13  9:29             ` [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base hibernation Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]             ` <200707131129.34974.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-13  9:38               ` david
2007-07-13 11:59                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 14:37                   ` Alan Stern
2007-07-13 15:12                   ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
     [not found]                   ` <87abu01gnv.fsf@jbms.ath.cx>
2007-07-13 15:45                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                     ` <200707131745.43055.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-13 15:50                       ` Alan Stern
2007-07-13 16:48                       ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-13 21:23                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14  7:12                   ` david
     [not found]             ` <1184347974.4523.30.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com>
2007-07-13 12:01               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-13 17:32             ` Huang, Ying
     [not found]     ` <m14pk9fuqa.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
2007-07-12 19:09       ` david
2007-07-12 19:49         ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]       ` <1184368525.1069.68.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com>
2007-07-13 16:43         ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]         ` <m1k5t4dzl4.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
2007-07-14  5:48           ` Huang, Ying
     [not found]           ` <1184392129.1898.69.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com>
2007-07-14  9:59             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-14 10:55               ` Huang, Ying
     [not found]               ` <1184410554.1898.84.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com>
2007-07-14 19:16                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                 ` <200707142116.10237.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-15  9:30                   ` Huang, Ying
     [not found]                   ` <1184491804.1898.121.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com>
2007-07-15 10:49                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17  8:13                     ` david
     [not found]                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707170101010.19248@asgard.lang.hm>
2007-07-17 11:59                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 12:48                       ` Huang, Ying
     [not found]                       ` <1184676518.10998.34.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com>
2007-07-17 14:22                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2007-07-18  0:25                           ` david
2007-07-13 23:15       ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 14:43   ` Huang, Ying
     [not found] ` <20070711111350.GI7091@elf.ucw.cz>
     [not found]   ` <1184257734.9346.76.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com>
2007-07-12  8:54     ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]     ` <20070712085428.GA1866@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-07-13 23:18       ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-12 16:28   ` Huang, Ying
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707131146340.2555-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2007-07-13 16:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-07-13 18:15   ` Alan Stern
2007-07-13 20:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707131402001.2684-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2007-07-13 21:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] <200707151249.26148.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-24 14:00 ` Huang, Ying
     [not found] <9D7649D18729DE4BB2BD7B494F7FEDC236CF66@pdsmsx415.ccr.corp.intel.com>
2007-07-24 15:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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