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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@cmu.edu>
Cc: david@lang.hm, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>, Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Hibernation considerations
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:58:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200707172258.35113.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k5syg3yi.fsf@jbms.ath.cx>

On Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:39, Jeremy Maitin-Shepard wrote:
> david@lang.hm writes:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > the non-ACPI hibernate behaves very differently, and for some people (and I
> > think I am one of them) it will meet their needs better then _any_ of the ACPI
> > suspends.
> 
> It may have certain differences from the user point of view, but from
> the implementation view, it seems that it is nearly exactly the same.
> The only differences seem to be: 
> 
>  - rather than shutting down, do whatever is necessary to stick the
>    system in S4 state.
> 
>  - make sure ACPI isn't initialized by the "load image" kernel
> 
>  - rather than "resume from hibernate" ACPI by initializing it normally,
>    issue the special hibernate-related methods.
> 
> Thus, it seems that supporting ACPI S4 will have a very minimal affect
> on the hibernate implementation.

Still, you need to take it into account.

Greetings,
Rafael


-- 
"Premature optimization is the root of all evil." - Donald Knuth

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-17 20:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707151633240.25614@asgard.lang.hm>
2007-07-16 14:21 ` Hibernation considerations Alan Stern
2007-07-17  4:45   ` david
2007-07-17 14:15     ` Alan Stern
2007-07-17 14:40       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]       ` <200707171640.39955.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-17 15:29         ` david
2007-07-17 16:02           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]           ` <200707171802.30903.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-17 17:06             ` david
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707170959160.2467@asgard.lang.hm>
2007-07-17 19:50               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]               ` <200707172150.44417.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-17 20:18                 ` david
2007-07-17 20:39                   ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 20:57                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 20:53                     ` david
2007-07-17 21:37                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                       ` <200707172337.24683.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-17 21:42                         ` david
2007-07-17 21:53                           ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
     [not found]                   ` <87k5syg3yi.fsf@jbms.ath.cx>
2007-07-17 20:39                     ` david
2007-07-17 20:58                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2007-07-21 10:25                   ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                   ` <20070721102520.GE1902@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-07-21 15:35                     ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-21 17:56                       ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                       ` <20070721175639.GA3701@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-07-21 19:35                         ` david
2007-07-21 19:49                           ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]                           ` <20070721194906.GC3701@elf.ucw.cz>
2007-07-21 22:14                             ` david
2007-08-01 16:58                   ` Stefan Seyfried
2007-07-17 20:24                 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 20:44                   ` david
2007-07-17 21:00                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 16:09         ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 18:32         ` Alan Stern
     [not found]         ` <87hco3ypt5.fsf@jbms.ath.cx>
2007-07-17 19:54           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-21 10:17     ` Pavel Machek
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707171835560.8690-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2007-07-17 22:37 ` david
2007-07-18 14:29   ` Alan Stern
2007-07-18 14:47     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]     ` <200707181647.32620.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-20  4:40       ` Al Boldi
     [not found]       ` <200707200740.38158.a1426z@gawab.com>
2007-07-20 10:59         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707171416120.3728-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2007-07-17 20:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 20:27 ` david
2007-07-17 21:20   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 22:38   ` Alan Stern
     [not found] ` <200707172217.01890.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-17 20:34   ` david
2007-07-17 20:54     ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
     [not found]     ` <87fy3mg39r.fsf@jbms.ath.cx>
2007-07-17 21:04       ` david
     [not found]     ` <200707172323.51702.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-17 21:17       ` david
     [not found]         ` <871wf6g1q1.fsf@jbms.ath.cx>
2007-07-17 21:27           ` david
2007-07-17 21:54             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:45           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:27         ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 21:43         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:23     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 20:34   ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
     [not found]   ` <87odiag45q.fsf@jbms.ath.cx>
2007-07-17 20:37     ` david
2007-07-17 20:56       ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
     [not found]       ` <87bqeag369.fsf@jbms.ath.cx>
2007-07-17 21:06         ` david
     [not found]         ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707171404330.2467@asgard.lang.hm>
2007-07-17 21:40           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:24       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:11     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707161045520.3410-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2007-07-16 16:51 ` Al Boldi
     [not found] ` <200707161951.35225.a1426z@gawab.com>
2007-07-17  4:37   ` david
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707161013440.3410-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2007-07-16 15:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] <200707160938.16037.nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>
2007-07-16 14:15 ` Alan Stern
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707151918340.30402-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2007-07-15 23:58 ` david
2007-07-16  5:02 ` Al Boldi
     [not found] ` <200707160802.46567.a1426z@gawab.com>
2007-07-16  6:49   ` david
2007-07-16 13:32     ` Al Boldi
     [not found]     ` <200707161632.02334.a1426z@gawab.com>
2007-07-17  4:33       ` david
2007-07-17 12:08         ` Al Boldi
     [not found]         ` <200707171508.06921.a1426z@gawab.com>
2007-07-17 14:18           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 15:23           ` david
2007-07-16 14:53   ` Alan Stern
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707151915570.28934-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2007-07-15 23:53 ` david
2007-07-16  5:18   ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707151914450.28934-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2007-07-15 23:38 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-15 23:41 ` david
     [not found] <200707152040.33836.a1426z@gawab.com>
2007-07-15 23:28 ` Alan Stern
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707151220570.24011-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
2007-07-15 17:40 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-15 19:52 ` david
     [not found] <200707151433.34625.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-15 12:51 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-15 12:58 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
     [not found] ` <200707151810.33554.a1426z@gawab.com>
2007-07-15 15:35   ` jimmy bahuleyan
2007-07-15 16:29   ` Alan Stern
     [not found]   ` <469A3EB9.8000304@gmail.com>
2007-07-15 17:40     ` Al Boldi
     [not found] ` <469A8515.3080109@gmx.de>
2007-07-15 19:46   ` david
2007-07-15 20:13 ` david
     [not found]   ` <200707160047.28420.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-15 22:42     ` david
2007-07-15 23:15       ` Alan Stern
2007-07-15 23:22       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]       ` <200707160122.09840.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-15 23:49         ` david
2007-07-16 12:06           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-16 12:38             ` Jim Crilly
2007-07-16 15:29               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]               ` <200707161729.16440.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-17  4:28                 ` david
2007-07-17 10:42                   ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                   ` <20070717104231.GA32486@srcf.ucam.org>
2007-07-17 15:19                     ` david
     [not found]                     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707170818460.19248@asgard.lang.hm>
2007-07-18  2:18                       ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                       ` <20070718021817.GA13502@srcf.ucam.org>
2007-07-18  3:54                         ` david
2007-07-18 11:10                           ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                           ` <20070718111016.GA18716@srcf.ucam.org>
2007-07-18 12:56                             ` david
2007-07-15 22:47   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 23:17   ` Alan Stern
2007-07-15 20:35 ` Cornelius Riemenschneider
     [not found] ` <20070715125855.GA1737@gallifrey>
2007-07-15 22:38   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]   ` <200707160038.12943.rjw@sisk.pl>
2007-07-15 22:27     ` david
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707151526080.25614@asgard.lang.hm>
2007-07-17 17:40       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
     [not found]       ` <20070717174044.GA11212@gallifrey>
2007-07-17 17:49         ` david
2007-07-29  6:53     ` Vojtech Pavlik
     [not found]     ` <20070729065352.GB17084@suse.cz>
2007-07-29  9:56       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-16  0:51 ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found] ` <20070716005135.GB8140@srcf.ucam.org>
2007-07-16  0:51   ` david
2007-07-15 12:33 Rafael J. Wysocki

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