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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
Subject: Re: Re: Possible problem with device_move()
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:12:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200707312112.51043.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0707311404110.7256-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On Tuesday, 31 July 2007 20:17, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:11:50 -0400 (EDT),
> > Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
> > 
> > > I wonder if device_move() shouldn't change the order of entries in the 
> > > dpm_active list so that the new parent (and all its ancestors) get 
> > > moved up ahead of the device's position?  But that might cause other 
> > > problems...
> > 
> > This may be necessary if walking the list is the single determining
> > factor to the order of suspend/resume.
> 
> It is.
> 
> > Are there any other dependencies
> > not covered by time of registration order? I would imagine those needed
> > moving devices on the dpm_active list as well...
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean.  Devices where A needs to be suspended 
> before B even though A was discovered first?  I'm not aware of anything 
> like that, other than your case and Marcel's.  Right now there's no 
> code in the PM core to handle such things.
> 
> There is a dependency in the USB subsystem, wherein I need an EHCI
> controller to be _resumed_ after its companion UHCI or OHCI
> controllers.  This works out, thanks to the fact that manufacturers
> tend to give the EHCI controller the largest PCI function number and
> the Linux PCI core enumerates functions in numerical order.  This is
> just pure luck, however, and if anything changed I'd have to add an
> explicit fix.

That sounds really worrying to me.

The design appears to be very fragile if such things are possible, even in
theory.

Greetings,
Rafael


-- 
"Premature optimization is the root of all evil." - Donald Knuth

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-31 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-28 15:36 Possible problem with device_move() Alan Stern
2007-07-30  6:42 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-07-30 17:34   ` Alan Stern
2007-07-31  8:33     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-07-31 15:11       ` Alan Stern
2007-07-31 15:27         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-31 15:30         ` Cornelia Huck
2007-07-31 18:17           ` Alan Stern
2007-07-31 19:12             ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2007-07-31 20:37               ` Alan Stern
2007-08-01 13:03                 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-08-01 15:22                   ` Alan Stern
2007-08-01 17:04                     ` Cornelia Huck
2007-08-01 17:35                       ` Alan Stern
2007-08-01 19:25                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-01 20:27                           ` Alan Stern
2007-08-02  8:06                             ` Cornelia Huck
2007-08-02 14:19                               ` Alan Stern
2007-08-02 14:50                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2007-08-02 11:21                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-02 14:24                               ` Alan Stern
2007-08-02 14:58                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-02 15:23                                   ` Alan Stern
2007-08-02 22:39                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-03 14:56                                       ` Alan Stern
2007-08-03 21:39                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-06  9:31                                           ` Cornelia Huck
2007-08-06 13:53                                             ` Alan Stern
2007-07-30  6:53 ` Marcel Holtmann
2007-07-30 17:37   ` Alan Stern

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