From: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux-pm mailing list <linux-pm@lists.osdl.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Subject: Re: [RFC] sleepy linux
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:41:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200712271041.30923.oliver@neukum.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071226203258.GE8094@elf.ucw.cz>
Am Mittwoch, 26. Dezember 2007 21:32:58 schrieb Pavel Machek:
> ... I also don't need to call any suspend() routines, because all the
> drivers are already suspended, right?
Well, you have a number of devices which cannot do runtime pm.
They can do suspend/resume with the whole system. For them these
operations mean saving/restoring state.
So for these devices implementing autosuspend makes no sense.
They would sensibly do only idle/busy detection.
> And yes, I want device activity to prevent s2ram. If user is burning
> CD, machine should not sleep. If user is actively typing, machine
In these cases the devices involved should report themselves busy,
shouldn't they?
> should not sleep. My vision is: screen saver tells kernel keyboard
> need not be very responsive, at that point keyboard driver can
> autosuspend the keyboard, and if that was the last device, whole
> system sleeps.
We lack a notion of telling devices that they are opened only for
detecting wakeups. Currently a driver has to assume that an opened
device has to be fully functional.
Regards
Oliver
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-27 9:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-25 23:07 [RFC] sleepy linux Pavel Machek
2007-12-26 17:28 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-12-26 19:02 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-26 20:17 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-26 20:23 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-12-26 20:32 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-26 23:15 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-12-29 23:48 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-27 9:41 ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2007-12-29 23:51 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-30 16:39 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-12-31 14:44 ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-02 10:52 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-12-26 18:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-26 19:00 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-26 19:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-26 20:08 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-12-26 20:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-26 20:51 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-26 20:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-29 23:44 ` Pavel Machek
2007-12-26 20:09 ` [linux-pm] " Igor Stoppa
2007-12-30 11:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-05 21:51 ` Pavel Machek
2008-01-08 16:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-01-08 19:15 ` Pavel Machek
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