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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	ALSA development <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	Ondrej Zary <linux@rainbow-software.org>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>, Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>,
	Pierre Ossman <drzeus@drzeus.cx>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] PNP_DRIVER_RES_DISABLE breaks swsusp at least with snd_cs4236
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:08:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801122008.10313.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4788F226.7040101@keyaccess.nl>

On Saturday, 12 of January 2008, Rene Herman wrote:
> On 12-01-08 16:21, Pierre Ossman wrote:
> 
> > Ah, sorry. It was a different thread. Look for a mail with the subject 
> > "PNP: do not stop/start devices in suspend/resume path" in the LKML och 
> > linux-pm archives.
> 
> Right, and I see that the removal of start/stop is already in -mm. That's 
> not going to work. Something (such as removing power) disabled Ondrej's 
> CS4236 and the pnp_start_dev() is needed to re-enable it upon resume.
> 
> >> But we certainly need the pnp_start_dev() in the current flow of
> >> things. It not being called is the problem this fixes...
> > 
> > I think the previous suggestion was that the drivers should call this,
> > not the core, so that it behaved more like other parts of the kernel
> > (e.g. PCI).
> 
> It seems all PnP drivers would need to stick a pnp_start_dev in their resume 
> method

Yes.

> then which means it really belongs in core.

Yes, if practical.

> One important point where PnP and PCI differ is that PnP allows to change the
> resources on a protocol level and I don't see how it could ever not be
> necessary to restore the state a user may have set if power has been
> removed. Hibernate is just that, isn't it?

Basically, yes, it is.

Thanks,
Rafael

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-12 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200801092343.48726.linux@rainbow-software.org>
     [not found] ` <20080111080141.75aaad5f@poseidon.drzeus.cx>
     [not found]   ` <47877B83.5040604@keyaccess.nl>
     [not found]     ` <200801111940.22023.linux@rainbow-software.org>
2008-01-12  1:23       ` [alsa-devel] PNP_DRIVER_RES_DISABLE breaks swsusp at least with snd_cs4236 Rene Herman
     [not found]       ` <4788168F.8070403@keyaccess.nl>
2008-01-12 11:12         ` Pierre Ossman
     [not found]         ` <20080112121256.0f2e96ad@poseidon.drzeus.cx>
2008-01-12 13:39           ` Rene Herman
     [not found]           ` <4788C323.6090206@keyaccess.nl>
2008-01-12 15:21             ` Pierre Ossman
     [not found]             ` <20080112162150.1ec9cad0@poseidon.drzeus.cx>
2008-01-12 16:46               ` Ondrej Zary
2008-01-12 17:00               ` Rene Herman
     [not found]               ` <4788F226.7040101@keyaccess.nl>
2008-01-12 19:08                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2008-01-12 20:08                   ` -mm: pnp-do-not-stop-start-devices-in-suspend-resume-path.patch breaks resuming isapnp cards Rene Herman
     [not found]                   ` <47891E21.8060209@keyaccess.nl>
2008-01-13  5:50                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
     [not found]                     ` <200801122250.44220.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>
2008-01-13  6:13                       ` Rene Herman
     [not found]                       ` <4789AC0F.9030007@keyaccess.nl>
2008-01-14 22:26                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
     [not found]                         ` <200801141526.57744.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>
2008-01-14 23:46                           ` Rene Herman
2008-01-15  7:51                           ` Jaroslav Kysela
     [not found]                           ` <Pine.LNX.4.61.0801150842480.7446@tm8103.perex-int.cz>
2008-01-16 17:46                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
     [not found]                             ` <200801161046.05174.bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>
2008-01-16 18:03                               ` Ondrej Zary
2008-01-16 18:16                               ` Rene Herman
2008-01-12 19:01             ` [alsa-devel] PNP_DRIVER_RES_DISABLE breaks swsusp at least with snd_cs4236 Rafael J. Wysocki

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