From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Zdenek Kabelac <zdenek.kabelac@gmail.com>,
pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
davem@davemloft.net, Pierre Ossman <drzeus-mmc@drzeus.cx>
Subject: Re: [patch] Re: using long instead of atomic_t when only set/read is required
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:24:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080303172410.GA13869@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080303154831.22a4eb14@core>
Hi!
> > Ok, so linux actually atomicity of long?
^~-- assumes should be here.
> No it doesn't. And even if it did you couldn't use long for this because
> atomic_t also ensures the points operations complete are defined. You
> might just about get away with volatile long * objects on x86 for simple
> assignments but for anything else gcc can and will generate code to
> update values whichever way it feels best - which includes turning
>
> long *x = a + b;
>
> into
>
> *x = a;
> *x += b;
Ok, I can understand the gcc side. But do we actually run on an
architecture where
long *x;
*x = 0;
racing with
*x = 0x12345678;
can produce
*x == 0x12340000;
or something like that? I'm told RCU relies on architectures not doing
this, and I'd like to get this clarified.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-03 17:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20080225090316.GA420@elf.ucw.cz>
2008-02-25 14:46 ` using long instead of atomic_t when only set/read is required (was Re: [Bug 10030] Suspend doesn't work when SD card is inserted) Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0802250943410.3549-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2008-03-03 12:08 ` [patch] Re: using long instead of atomic_t when only set/read is required Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20080303120842.GA28369@elf.ucw.cz>
2008-03-03 15:42 ` Alan Stern
2008-03-03 15:48 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0803031023550.3611-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2008-03-03 15:53 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20080303155330.39e45ad4@core>
2008-03-03 17:11 ` Alan Stern
2008-03-03 17:16 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-03 17:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-03-03 17:33 ` Alan Cox
2008-03-03 17:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
[not found] ` <20080303154831.22a4eb14@core>
2008-03-03 17:24 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2008-03-03 20:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <200803032127.30761.rjw@sisk.pl>
2008-03-03 21:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-03-03 22:23 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0803031207120.3611-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
2008-03-03 17:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-03 17:44 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-06 15:58 ` Mark Lord
[not found] ` <47D014A6.9090300@rtr.ca>
2008-03-06 16:11 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.00.0803060807120.12253@woody.linux-foundation.org>
2008-03-06 16:27 ` Mark Lord
[not found] <20080303174422.GB13869@elf.ucw.cz>
2008-03-03 19:27 ` Alan Stern
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