* Metrics for comparing power savings of patches...
@ 2008-03-07 17:01 Scott Thompson
2008-03-16 19:03 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-21 18:31 ` Wes Felter
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From: Scott Thompson @ 2008-03-07 17:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-pm, power
I've seen several patch submissions and comments with varying
claims of 'power savings' from one level to another on both the
linux-pm and powertop lists.
Standard technique seems to be to plug computer directly into a
wattmeter and then provide some feedback as to the savings comparing
one patchgroup to what is currently available.
Different wattmeters, however, will have different response and
accuracy depending on load for instant readings; usually the lower-
loads (such as laptops) will be less accurate.
However, I have seen that most wattmeters do a 'better' job at
measuring total wattage over an interval than the 'instant
reading'. I advise caution in advertising 'expected savings' for
instant readings....
Also, if anyone knows of any free benchmarks, best practices, or
guidelines for trying to do comparative power analysis for patches
with wattmeters please let me know.
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* Re: Metrics for comparing power savings of patches...
2008-03-07 17:01 Metrics for comparing power savings of patches Scott Thompson
@ 2008-03-16 19:03 ` Pavel Machek
2008-03-17 15:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-03-21 18:31 ` Wes Felter
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From: Pavel Machek @ 2008-03-16 19:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Scott Thompson; +Cc: linux-pm, power
On Fri 2008-03-07 12:01:05, Scott Thompson wrote:
> I've seen several patch submissions and comments with varying
> claims of 'power savings' from one level to another on both the
> linux-pm and powertop lists.
>
> Standard technique seems to be to plug computer directly into a
> wattmeter and then provide some feedback as to the savings comparing
> one patchgroup to what is currently available.
>
> Different wattmeters, however, will have different response and
> accuracy depending on load for instant readings; usually the lower-
> loads (such as laptops) will be less accurate.
notebooks usually have internal wattmeters. cat /proc/acpi/batt*/*/*.
> However, I have seen that most wattmeters do a 'better' job at
> measuring total wattage over an interval than the 'instant
> reading'. I advise caution in advertising 'expected savings' for
> instant readings....
>
> Also, if anyone knows of any free benchmarks, best practices, or
> guidelines for trying to do comparative power analysis for patches
> with wattmeters please let me know.
Intel has something on lesswatts.org.
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* Re: Metrics for comparing power savings of patches...
2008-03-16 19:03 ` Pavel Machek
@ 2008-03-17 15:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
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From: Arjan van de Ven @ 2008-03-17 15:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pavel Machek; +Cc: linux-pm, Scott Thompson, power
Pavel Machek wrote:
>> However, I have seen that most wattmeters do a 'better' job at
>> measuring total wattage over an interval than the 'instant
>> reading'. I advise caution in advertising 'expected savings' for
>> instant readings....
>>
>> Also, if anyone knows of any free benchmarks, best practices, or
>> guidelines for trying to do comparative power analysis for patches
>> with wattmeters please let me know.
>
> Intel has something on lesswatts.org.
the most "accurate" method is "minutes before the battery is empty" as long
as you do measurements shortly after eachother on the same battery and take care
of how full the battery is charged when you start the rundown.
However.. this takes forever to do any kind of experiment.
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* Re: Metrics for comparing power savings of patches...
2008-03-07 17:01 Metrics for comparing power savings of patches Scott Thompson
2008-03-16 19:03 ` Pavel Machek
@ 2008-03-21 18:31 ` Wes Felter
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From: Wes Felter @ 2008-03-21 18:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-pm; +Cc: power
Scott Thompson wrote:
> Also, if anyone knows of any free benchmarks, best practices, or
> guidelines for trying to do comparative power analysis for patches
> with wattmeters please let me know.
The gold standard appears to be the SPECpower methodology.
http://www.spec.org/power_ssj2008/docs/SPECpower-Methodology.pdf
Unfortunately, I've heard their certified power meters are quite expensive.
Wes Felter - wesley@felter.org
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